Wait, what scene in the captain’s office on Station 19 do you mean? ? Btw thanks for all the gifs for the various fandom, you’re great!

Thanks! Tthe scene in the captain’s office comes from the live with Danielle and Sfefania from the Thursday when the vacation ep aired and there was a question about favorite scenes together and at first they were like, they’re all great, and that the bed scenes were cozy to shoot, but then Danielle said that she’s really excited to see a scene in the captain’s office that hasn’t aired yet. No guarantee it’ll be a positive scene, of course, it could be another fight but they both seemed hyped about it.

Girl, are you going to gif Carina’s scenes from GA ?!? ???

I wasn’t really…gonna? I do download and skim through Grey’s now, just for her scenes and in case Maya pops up, but she hasn’t so far, and even Carina hardly shows up. She had some parts in the recent finale because of Amelia’s baby but she mostly just kinda smiled supportively. Was there anything you wanted in particular?

I started laughing about what you said about watching and the stopping for a bit when Maya and Jack became a thing because name ??? for real though, even if my hopes for Maya and carina are low as hell, I hope they stop yanking Maya around like a plot device for whatever story they want to do with Andy.. it’s not doing either of them Justice and it’s wrecking a pretty nice friendship…

Lol, yeah, as soon as Maya started casually showing up in Jack’s scenes, I was like, nope. I hoped they wouldn’t go there because of that ep where Ryan helped with her brother (and god, their dad did a number on them) and I’d been afraid THAT might have been a thing and of course it wasn’t, but no such luck this time. I would have preferred Ryan, tbh, I just dislike Jack in general, for both of them. I like Andy with Ryan and I actually like her a lot with Sullivan, it’s not hating m/f in general. But Jack…like, so many deaths and he’s still alive? Okay. >_>

And right! Maya’s plots are often not so much about her as they are her doing something to Andy. Now this new thing, which AGAIN, Andy might be mad at Maya about. You can just make it a solid relationship, show, there doesn’t have to be this drama. Although I guess that’s literally not true for them, as long as it’s on screen, there has to be drama attached. Which applies to all serialized media to some extent but this franchise takes it to an extreme. 

It’s our luck that the one independent thing Maya had, with Carina, might not even shown to its fullest this season. It looked like DeLuca’s storyline was picking up at the end of the Grey’s finale, which was originally just a regular ep but had to be made into the finale because their taping was cut short. And we also know that since they want to pick up where they left off next season, they’ve edited out any parts from S19 that reference what would have happened in the rest of the Grey’s season. I’m just guessing but some of that might have been related to Carina and her brother. Maybe Teddy and her cheating, but I can’t imagine the S19 people care tons about that. I just hope we still get that scene in the captain’s office.

it’s funny bc i only watched s19 bc of a poster i saw of andy’s actress. thought, ‘oh shes hot’ and watched it when my shows ran out. i finshed it without realizing and actually started to like it. i mean, it’s ridiculous even for broadcast but i love maya and how well the actress plays her. first half of the season was me going ‘dont be mean 2 maya’ @ my tv lol. her and carina are sweet but i have 0 trust as much as i want them to last, this show kills(ppl, places love) in seconds lmao

Oh, Jaina Lee Ortiz? Yeah, she is! I dunno if you caught her in Rosewood (that also had a f/f couple)? But Andy’s great too. I started S19 as just a new show, even though it was a Grey’s spinoff I naively thought it wouldn’t be as dramatic, lol. And at the start, it kind of was okay, and then as soon as Maya and Jack started hanging out, I knew what was going to happen and stopped watching, occasionally looking in to see how things were going. As soon as they broke up, I was back, lol.

It did suck that everyone was so angry at Maya, I’m glad they’ve started showing her background and POV more, I hope the general audience stops hating on her so much. Maybe it’s because I’m just so not in it for the drama, the ups and downs just seem so manipulative, I’m not going to hate on Maya when it’s the writers who keep yanking everyone around. So absolutely, as much as I like this new thing with Carina you just can’t trust anything with this franchise, you wrote this on Wednesday and by the next day, they’d killed off yet another major character. I’m just going to enjoy what I can and hope that when it ends, it’s not in a way that’ll destroy the ship for me completely.

I think we get to at least keep Carina/Maya through the end of S19 this season. Danielle and Stefania did a live after the episode Thursday and both said they had a lot of good scenes coming up, including 1 big one they were both nervous about. Towards the end, they both commented that they couldn’t wait to get back to working together next season so, maybe we can get invested. I dunno, but they’ve got me. I can’t not like them together because their chemistry is spot on and unforced.

I did see that, I did see that, and yeah, I literally said to my friend, unless they’re JRothenberging this, pretty sure they’re at least still alive and probably still together at the end of this season, but that’s just a blink of an eye in terms of how this particular franchise treats time. Jack and Maya got together when, Vic and Ripley, Andy and Ryan, and so and now look at them. And that’s not even including the Grey’s people, who can be together for years and still implode.

But still, it’s a relief to be able to enter the hiatus knowing there’s no huge shock waiting. And I usually don’t watch these things, I just happened to be on IG for Barbara/Maca and saw Danielle’s live and I was so charmed! I didn’t know much about Stefania at all before this but she seems so interesting, all those careers and languages and the places she’s visited, and she’s funny, in a language that she learned not even that long ago. And Danielle was such a good live…host? Or whatever that’s called, lol, and the fact that she’s learning Italian so she can talk to Stefania seems so sweet, and also does bode well for the ship. Her short, dark hair looks so good! 

What a weird time to be getting into this ship and be thinking these mundane things and then being like, I hope there even is another season this year.

I have to give props to the actress that play Carina and Maya. Not only do they have natural chemistry that is apparent, they have all the nonverbal actions down as well. The way Maya’s eyes traveled down then back up Carina’s body and how you could see the second she lost all thoughts besides thirst she had and the little wiggle Carina does as she approaches to seal the deal. I’ve seen both F/F and M/F couples on tv in the same situations where small gestures like that are missed.

They do! Actually, when you say natural chemistry and nonverbal actions, I feel they’re both part of the same thing.

Last year, I was talking to a friend about what made Juliantina seem so natural and we decided that’s what “chemistry” actually is, the commitment from the actors to treating that relationship as real. For the actors to behave as it was real and convey it in every way, big and small, without that self-consciousness or distance you sometimes get, especially with same-sex couples. And then earlier this year, I saw this interesting post, where Celine Sciamma was praised for the chemistry between the characters in Portrait and how it was something you just couldn’t fake, and she was like, well, it’s literally our job to fake it, it’s our job to make you believe in this romance. And you know, exactly! 

All this effort they put in, it’s part of it. And these two actresses do it well. I haven’t seen much of Stefania Spampinato before this, but she’s got the easy smiles and touches down, and well, we know Danielle Savre’s got that, well, that gay gaze, lol. They’re both totally selling it, and that’s exactly what you want from all your ships’ actors.

I like how Carina said she’s not in the habit of fixing broken people, but she’s very good at it. She’s handling everything Maya’s throwing at her very well. Not sure what her tipping point will be because Maya has a lot of legitimate issues. Curious to see how they continue to evolve because I really like them. I’d also like to see Maya be there for Carina. I reckon that would be on Grey’s since S19 is Maya’s show so Carina is the supportive GF for her. Unfortunately, Carina isn’t a main on GA.

Ohhh, that’s right! I totally forgot about that. I was so stuck on her knowing Maya’s “eyes forward” mantra, meaning she’s told her about that, but it slipped my mind that Carina said she wasn’t gonna do this. And has been doing this for a while, starting from the truck breakdown, lol.

She could have meant she won’t try if people don’t put in the effort themselves, or signaled she’d changed her mind by not leaving when Maya opened the door for her. Or maybe she just continued to want to have fun too, but each step deeper happened without her really noticing and now she’s going on a couple’s vacation a thousand miles away and knowing exactly how to bring back Maya from a panic attack.

And yes, I’d like to see Maya do the same for Carina. Maya does have a lot of issues, but most stem from the same source, and she does seem to be tackling them, now it’s Carina’s turn. You’re right, it’ll most likely be on Grey’s, not only because that’s Carina’s show, but it’ll probably be tied to her brother. Even though Meredith seems to be handling a lot of that, they can’t leave Carina out of it completely, right? Unfortunately, though DeLuca’s arc seemed to be building to something, isn’t Grey’s about to run out of eps soon and won’t be finishing the season proper? So it might have to wait till next season? I actually don’t know how it all works out, are they just going to air Station 19 eps that assumed Grey’s would still be shot? Or are they so independent in terms of story that it doesn’t really matter if a character pops up in S19, there’s no chance something important was happening to them in Grey’s?