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There wasn’t a lot of interaction between Chivis with Lucho and Sergio, but judging by how Chivis acted when Val first told her that Juliana was coming over she didn’t seem like the biggest fan of the people Val surrounded herself with. When Val said a friend was coming over Chivis was a bit apprehensive, but when she said it was a new friend Chivis was really happy. This was right after Val drowned and im guessing Chivis didn’t want people around who encouraged her drinking problem 1/2

2/2 but then Chivis had that vision of Juliantina being chased by who she told her husband she thought was the police and then it all went downhill from there. It’s so unfortunate because our bb Juliana didnt deserve that judgment but because of how obviously unstable Val was at the time everyone was defensive to the point of being patronizing and infantilizing her & some of their class prejudice made it even worse for Juls. The ppl who cared like Leon came around. I think Chivis would too 2/2

Yeah, but she never took those other friends aside and told them to cool it, did she. And we’d know for sure if she did because they’re the kind of people who would make a big deal about it, which is exactly why she never did it. But Juls sober, well-behaved, poor Juls, oh, she’d be more receptive to a quiet whisper. Like, fair enough, she thought she was protecting Val, but so quick to jump to the worst conclusions when it was about Juls. 

Still, much of that was to set up a bit of conflict that they could then get through. And I’ll take that over some of the other drama, lol. She’d have to get over it, because there’s just no other choice, she loves Val and Juls is going to be in Val’s life forever, so.

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But i dont want her to treat her badly, id never want or expect that from juliana. Shes too much of an angel That said, i just want her to make out with valentina in front of her ? jdjdjd but i get u, i get u i just cant stand anyone who dares look at juliana weird or treats her wrongly or thinks less of her for absolutely anything hdjfjf

Oh, gotcha, gotcha. That protectiveness over Juls, I totally get. One of the first people to pile onto poor Juls and her motivations coming purely from a place of care about Val must have made it even harder to stomach.

On the one hand, I can think, well, she didn’t know it was a romantic relationship back then, she was trying to stop what she thought was a harmful friendship before it got deeper, but lol, no stopping friendships with Lucho or Sergio, huh. I can’t help but think Juls’s class came into it, which I don’t like.

But, people can grow from their mistakes. She does know about their relationship now, either from watching on TV or with Val happily skipping up to her hand in hand with a sheepish Juls and proudly reintroducing her girlfriend. I think at that point, if Chivis loves Val as much as I think she does, she’d submit gracefully and her attitude would change. Maybe she’d still gossip a bit with her husband but with Eva in jail, Lucia dead, and Jacobo revealed to be Leon, she can hardly claim the violence surrounding them is due to poor Juls. 

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And in front of chivis, please in front of chivis. Bitch deserves to know whos the boss hdjdk

Heh, your anger at Chivis. But anon, anon, that’s actually probably exactly why Juls WOULD never do that. She effectively is kind of the boss? She’s at a level higher than Chivis, anyhow. You can’t act like that with someone your gf’s family employs. That’s actually something I super love about Juls, how polite she always is with the staff. 

I was going to elaborate on this when I giffed it but anyway, remember when Alerio said that Juls couldn’t use the Carvajal car after instruction from Eva and Val was understandably losing it a bit, after the day she’d been having, and Juls stepped in and was like, it’s not his fault, don’t take it out on him? That was actually one of my favorite Juls moments. That kind of awareness and sense of fairness, after being so shocked by Eva’s visit herself and then the humiliation only burning deeper at being told she couldn’t even get in the damn car, it’s such a clear sign of what a fundamentally good and kind person she is. 

I think she’d basically wait out Chivis until she accepted them, like, it’s not as if Chivis is trying to turn her away out of malice, more…well, it is wrong of her, because even if she’s doing it out of protectiveness, there certainly seems to be a part of her ready to believe the worst of the Valdeses. But I think she’ll come around, she’ll have to, and she and Juls will probably end up great allies as people who adore Val and have to tolerate that grump Eva. 😛

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well Panchito finally asked for a divorce he started wrong but before even jumping in bed with Lupe he talked to his wife and asked to finally get a divorce

Yeah, there is that. I know he has young kids too, but, well, like I said, if he loves another woman, what can ya do?

And another anon:

i just finished the lasted juls and val scenes and i’m confused about eva. i don’t watch the rest of the show so what happened to her? why was she breaking down so badly?

Mateo, her husband, found out that she’s been having an affair with a cartel leader, that her baby might be that cartel guy’s, and she’s been helping him launder money through the family company.

And another anon:

Does Chivis know that Val & Jules are “more than friends”? She had to have heard Val’s big fight with Eva, but I don’t recall the show addressing it. Granted my Spanish is crap, so I may have missed it.

Now that I think about it, she might not actually know. The show’s never shown her stumble on them kissing like Lupe, Lucho, Sergio, or Jacobo and she’s never been told by anybody like Panchito, Beltran, Eva, Camilo, Guille, Renata, or Barbara. So a bunch of people know, but not her. 

I wonder if they’ll show her finding out. I definitely want Lucia to find out.

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Did you notice Chivis greeting Juls?? Did she finally get over being mad at Juls??? It’s probably the first time since their first meeting that she greeted her and she doesn’t sound irritated. Has Eva’s ‘No juliana allowed in any carvajal property’ been revoked or they just ignoring her now? And like, Val said yesterday that she’s scared to go out but she still went to Camilo’s office with Juls instead of asking him to come to her house. I cant believe we’re being fed this well by juliantina ?

They add so many teeny little details to make it better and richer.

At first I thought Juliana’s greeting was a bit passive aggressive like, hi, can’t ignore me or be mean to me in front of Val, but then Chivis was pretty nice to her back, so maybe the point was Chivis being nice because, as she’d said at the start of the little interaction, Val was doing a lot better, and well, the reason just said hi.

I’m pretty curious to know if the rule has been lifted or if people are ignoring it. It is kinda important with respect to how Val’s sister, one of the biggest obstacles to their relationship, feels about Juls, but since the thawing of that would be put on screen, we can only assume people are ignoring it. 

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Hi. Can someone explain to me.. is Chivis like Theodora or something?? She has visions from touch??

And another anon:

In amar a muerte, does silvina have psychic powers or something? I thought at first when she touched val that it was just a flashback but then it happened again when she touched lupita.

Forgive me while I laugh for a few hours at comparing Chivis to Theodora freaking Crain, lmao. Well. They are both givers.

But actually. You’re right, kinda, she has mild powers. It’s why she’s been able to sense Leon in Jacobo more than anybody else, too.