I actually enjoyed Shelby + Toni, especially the final scene they had together because it was so soft.You felt a huge amount of growth when they reached that the moment because Toni was being so calm about everything because for once she was being the optimistic one out of the two of them. I’m interested to see what happens with them if further seasons are commissioned (let’s be honest, with how it ended you’re gonna need more than more season to unpack all of that!). We know they both survive the island (although that ending ?). So presumably there will some sort of written progress for their relationship (something implied when they thought Shelby wanted to see Toni). I will say, I’m not a big fan of the fact that there is a boy island. I get the idea behind it as being something that will fail, aka a Lord of The Flies type presentation. But I just feel at that point there will be too many characters that some will then get lost (whether killed off or screen time reduced).
Yeah, as I’ve always said, even the scenes that aren’t Romantic are still part of the ship and dynamic, and they had a lot of scenes even before…you know.
And you know, I’m not sure if Toni was entirely optimistic so much as fatalistic, but I guess it’s the same in those circumstances. I really do want to see what happened between that and the interviews, including the whole rescue?? But Shelby changed quite a bit, so what else happened? And where’s Martha?
There’s definitely lots of content for another season, even without the boy island. Which! I don’t think it will fail, I think the point of the show is that girls/women aren’t different or Better, excepting socialization. But yes, I don’t really want to see that side of things, it can be a plot point out there but I don’t want the characters integrated like this set. As you said, that would be too many in all and too many new dynamics. I watched for these girls and now I’m invested in them, as much as I’m sure there will be interesting plots for random boys, I don’t really care that much, heh.
I think I watch too much wlw tv cos as soon as I saw Shelby and Toni going at it I was like … lesbians
Heh, I actually really like that we can now see and recognize actual buildup and tension in f/f storylines, this used to be an area in which we’d just be considered delusional for seeing any kind of subtext. And I also like that more and more, there actually is some buildup and not the writers rushing it and going there in a first ep.
And another anon:
I just finished the episode where Shelby and Toni kiss and as much as I knew it was coming/saw the build up, for me, the couple of the show should have been Rachel and Leah. Their chemistry those first few episodes was so good and even the tension I liked. It was an enjoyable season though. I did wish Fatin was the lead, she just super layered and hilarious. Also I just like how that actress played it!
Oh, I didn’t even think of that, I guess I was already waiting for Toni/Shelby, I didn’t think we’d get another pair, not even…heh, MY other pair, Dot/Fantin. I really did love Fantin, in all her laziness and unapologeticness and basic decency and kindness. The actress played her SO well, just making these dry observations, she was a joy to watch.
And another anon:
Was there a bet in the writing room of the wilds on how to make the lesbian characters more off putting? Pee, anger, dentures, shaved head. The only part of the show that i didn’t enjoy was these two, i prefer Toni with her first girlfriend they were cute and had more chemistry.
This is so uncharitable, anon. 😡
They ALL looked messes by the end, and I’ll grant you the pee thing, lol, but anger? Especially for her background and these circumstances? Lots of them had their moments of anger, whole episodes, and by the end she was so chill. And dentures? People, even when young, can sometimes need them. There’s no need to make them even more self-conscious. And the shaved head was like, in a few scenes off the island and is just a style choice…
I feel like these are some very subjective biases you have, anon, and are stating them as general and factual. As with other recent discussions, you don’t have to like them or be attracted to them, you just have to buy that other people, including these two characters on a deserted island, would.
I did like the previous girlfriend, though! But the relationship was specifically written that way to be like, a one-ep backstory. If it was going to be a main thing, it would be written differently.
I watched an interview from the blonde actress(The Wilds) talking about her approach to her character and the words she chose to describe her role made me think hmm gay. So glad I’m right. I don’t watch trailers and was going to watch anyway, but I’m still happy I was right!
Heh, yeah, it was pretty obvious from just the promo, Toni was revealed to be gay off the bat and then a bunch more clips were her and Shelby. I kind of like how clear that was, even as something technically revealed late in the season, where two of the central characters are written for that from the start.
