Maya saying i love you seemed as if she was just reminding herself that she loves Carina and not to be angry at her more than anything else. Plus there is no growth going on in their relationship, Maya never talks to Carina the conversation she had with Andy should have been with her instead. She is still rude to Carina and she doesn’t try to explain herself to her and i can’t believe they never dealt with Andy moving in situation. It’s getting on my nerves how everyone gets screentime but them.

Ah! I see what you mean, like that, but the end result is the same thing, right, Maya making an effort?

Do agree that she needs to talk to Carina, I think we’re ALL agreed that there needs to be way more digging deep into their issues. Hopefully we’ll get more after the hiatus like they promised.

Thoughts about Carina calling Italy still her home? I mean she has been in Seattle for a couple of years now and even moved in with Maya. Shouldn’t Seattle be her home now?

Oh, I don’t know, that sounds very normal to me. For someone who grew up in a different country and still has family there, it could take even longer than a few years to call it home. I’ve been living where I am almost 10 years, I certainly don’t consider it home. It takes a lot to change that instinctive first thought of all your attachments to a new place, even with her brother and job and Maya here.

I’ve noticed that Maya tends to immediately apologize whenever Carina calls her out. It’s just something that’s stood out to me. I agree that the I Love You seemed more for Maya, especially with how she said it and what we know she feels about Carina in her space. My other observation is that a lot of people seem to want Maya to go to therapy. What do you think about that? I’m on the fence.

Yeah, actually, you’re right, so maybe that isn’t really a sign of growth, heh, though it’s a…nice thing in itself, I guess.

Now that I think about it, that’s effectively been their whole relationship, Maya reacts badly to something, Carina calls it out, Maya apologizes, Carina accepts, they make out. I wish Carina had the space to react badly, the screentime and plot arc, really, like, I’ve said this before–or maybe I said it’s easy to love a character who’s only allowed to be perfect, but in the same vein, it’s easy to be perfect when you don’t get the opportunity to be anything else. 

To be clear, I love her, I love her kindness and goodness and willingness to forgive and fight for those she loves, but she’s not really making the CHOICE to do so, right? Doing anything else would require them to actually give her that screentime. Like in this last ep, she’s just like, don’t be sorry. Why not?? But if she had the time and was still like, nope, I get that you react like this for a reason and that you regret it so I’ll move past it and instead am going to focus on this other stuff, that’d be quite different, right. Versus just, welp, my minute for this ep is up, we gotta resolve this and move on.

And yes, lol, 100% Maya should be going to therapy! I know this show loves doing exposition drops through friends ranting to each other, but as that one post said, therapy isn’t just talking. Your friends can’t provide you everything that therapy does, and like, you don’t need to have severe issues to go, you can be fine and go to get in the habit of talking things out and figuring out coping methods and basically to stay fine, but Maya’s issues ARE severe! Her friends and partner can’t give her what she needs for figuring how to unlearn her whole LIFE before now, there’s so much she has to deal with. And abuse like that doesn’t affect just one thing, it’s not just one area of her life, it’s who she is as a person, there’s nothing left untouched that’s her alone. She absolutely should be going, yes.

I watched an interview from the blonde actress(The Wilds) talking about her approach to her character and the words she chose to describe her role made me think hmm gay. So glad I’m right. I don’t watch trailers and was going to watch anyway, but I’m still happy I was right!

Heh, yeah, it was pretty obvious from just the promo, Toni was revealed to be gay off the bat and then a bunch more clips were her and Shelby. I kind of like how clear that was, even as something technically revealed late in the season, where two of the central characters are written for that from the start.