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that soft “you” of ava towards bea though…

Omg, right! I was wondering if I was imagining how her voice changed, but I relistened and I don’t think I was. 

Here she is to Mary:

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Okay, a normal amount of upset and concerned.

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And like! Obviously you can’t hear it gentling in a gif, but it just seems a special little moment, the way Beatrice and Mary react. Just kind of…charged? I do believe that they did want to play Bea/Ava’s relationship as a bit special this season already, for a variety of reasons, if only so it’d be even more dramatic if Ava has to let Bea down easily, but who knows. 

Either way, Bea does mean something special to Ava, the way she reached for her to hug, the way she saved her instinctively from the shotgun, the way she listens to her and talks to her. She is the closest thing to a friend Ava has, whatever else happens.

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I didn’t notice that Camila is the one that realized Melanie’s story. And she gave the book and look smiling at Ava and Beatrice

And another anon:

I thinks camila knows 

Yeah! I really liked that little moment from her and how much it conveyed, not only that people knew, but they didn’t all disapprove. And I do think she knew, it was too deliberate and specific to mean anything else. I don’t imagine they’d ever talked about it before, but she leapt at the chance to show Beatrice that not only was a previous halo-bearer a lesbian, the halo actually got more powerful when she accepted what she was.

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Following what the creator said in that interview, I think Beatrice/Ava is gonna be one side. Still is amazing

I’m gonna jump around a bit the remaining asks a bit because I wanted to answer this now, which you sent some days back and I assume are speaking about his answer in the VIFF interview + Q&A? Where he said Beatrice’s feelings are clear but Ava is, well, that’s the drama for next season? And tbh, I didn’t read that entirely optimistically either, it actually didn’t promise anything.

But in today’s interview with Variety, he was asked about the queerness (or lack of it) in this season and this is what he answered:

There’s definitely something there with Ava and Beatrice [Kristina Tonteri-Young] in the sense that, Beatrice openly admits she’s gay and that’s a part of her journey and part of our story. Does that define Ava? Well, that remains to be seen. I mean, we have more seasons hopefully to tell the story and that will be an ongoing journey, not something that is easily defined in one scene with one life, you know? Um, and I don’t think we want Ava defined by a singular thing any more than we want Beatrice defined by a singular idea. In regards to a queer character or whatever, we don’t want them to be defined by that. We want them to be defined by who they are and let their sexuality and let their relationships and let their journeys be included in that. We never tried to paint any character with just one defining characteristic. By defining Ava and Beatrice too quickly or too irresponsibly, we could kill it and ruin it. And I don’t want to do that either. So for now, let’s just say we are open and exploring, much like the characters are.

That seems more optimistic, tbh? Like, as much as he can’t give away the plot, he’s implying more. Of course, he could still mean nothing at all, in which case, lol, I hope whatever they do decide is handled really incredibly well, considering we’re not the ones creating polls about the ship name. 😛

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What most funny for me is that sometimes Ava looks like a toddler and is very, VERY cute; but in other moments she is ultra hot(see the scene when she takes off the habit)

Yes, all jokes about her resemblances to other actresses aside, Alba Baptista did an amazing job embodying all the different parts of this character. Honestly, I think we do kind of get distracted by how hot she is, she is very much the typical pretty thin white lead, for sure, and as you said, when she dresses up or is all serious like in the cool girl walk after taking off the habit, it’s right there, BUT, Ava is a freaking dork. 

Everything she thinks and feels is right there on her face, and a lot of that is just curiosity or naivete and she’s just cute in those moments. And come on, nobody who makes those puns and then like, wiggles her eyebrows to make sure she gets a laugh is a Cool Girl.

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since Aeon Flux I have wanted Charlize Theron to be a gay in an action movie! and I am only watching a few spoilers here, but it seems she wont be kissing any girls in this. (yes, i know we got atomic blonde, but how did that end huh?) yes, I am greedy. I do want her to be gay in ALL movies she plays the main action hero! whatever

Haha, yes, once I found out what was gonna happen in Atomic Blonde, I lost interest. 

She’s not explicitly wlw in this, although as I said to a friend, she certainly looks it, and a badass woman with no m/f romance, that’s…kind of ours by default, lol, I totally get what you mean. But there is something subtexty in this that was canon in the comics. There’s still story left to tell and a clear setup for a sequel, so I think there is still the possibility it’ll go there, and if not, maybe that’s for an okay reason, considering literally what we just said about Atomic Blonde. Depending on where it goes. 😮

And another anon:

Really hoping that any potential Old Guard sequel doesn’t pull a ‘I want to kill you’ because Misunderstanding™️’ plot

I mean, is it a misunderstanding? If she’s mad that they stopped looking, that’s kind of true. Whether it was immediately or some years after, I don’t think that’d make much of a difference to her and I get it! God, cruelty in what she suffered… 

And another anon:

The Old Guard was really great. Charlize is usually meh to me but she was great and Kiki Layne is a star! I loved Joe and Nick as well, and I know it’s not a typical superhero movie but I couldn’t stop thinking of those marvel movies where they state after the fact that the neighbour who was in 1 scene was gay or they claim a look exchanged between nameless background characters was because love. That’s good I guess but also lazy, and we deserve more. JoexNick was such a welcome surprise.

It wasn’t good, don’t give them any credit for that! Booo, weakass blockbuster rep, booooo. 

Joe and Nicky were great, and the softie that I am, I loved that they just got to be in love through the whole thing, no Conflicts because they were Tiring of Each Other After All This Time or whatever.

I used to be pretty ambivalent to Charlize but lately she’s just been getting more badass and hotter to me, so I’m slowly becoming an actual fan instead of neutral. I loved her in this one.

Kiki Layne was great! She played the full rollercoaster her arc demanded of her so well, coming into her own and making herself a real part of the team in such a short time, all while staying relatable and likeable.

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Yeah I don’t think it’s outside the realm of possibility even tho it’s DEFINITELY not something I wanna see Bc I liked the second half of the season best when the friend group was gone, but I’m not entirely sure they would’ve wasted so much time on Ava goin back to them if it was just about her trying to live her life. But the focus on “saving” & the way he kept finding her and taking her in makes me think the sex scene might end up being relevant. I really hope no pregnancy plot. (1/2)

Bc I really don’t want the story to turn into Ava bearing a ~savior~ or whatever that’ll end up being battled over for fate of the world or battling Adriel. But Ava could be a play on Ave Maria or sumn who knows. I’m hoping not but I don’t think we’ve seen the last of JC, that’s a random ass name that’s prolly standing for Jesus Christ and he has no background & was willing to travel world w her, I think he’ll prolly be back. (2/2)

Oh, wow, you took your extrapolation in unexpected directions. Um, hmmm. I mean, of course you can’t discount any theory, but for now, I don’t think that’s where they’re going.

First, as far as I know, Jesus isn’t exactly known for being the father of a pivotal figure. Second, Ava is pretty much a child herself, it would be…something for the writers to take this person who has been bed bound for most of her short life and barely experienced anything on her own and to then make her pregnant. Third, they’re ALL in a lot of very physical fights, Ava herself, AFTER ep 5 (the one with the sex), has fallen off a cliff, been blown into a wall by her own powers, shot in the chest with an arrow, electrocuted. It would be wild for them to say, yeah, she’s pregnant, and then for us to watch her next season be either in those same situations with a visible belly or laid up for a whole season? I just don’t think that’s anything people want to watch and I’d hope they’d realize that. Fourth, even the Terminator franchise, built on a mom giving birth to the savior premise, in recent years decided that was kind of a sexist concept. 

Maybe this is all just me convincing myself, but yeah, I don’t think that’s really on the horizon. There’s nothing about the halo concept that implies a kid to finish it off. JC might be back though, that seems much more likely.