I have steered away from getting invested in ships bc I try to enjoy shows w/o fandom drama but the fact that Danielle & Stef are so low maintenance and don’t need the show’s promotion to hype them up is so refreshing lol. They’ve cultivated a lot of fans by just being super interactive, genuine and fun people who enjoy each other’s company. Shondaland is lucky that they have so much hype for a ship that doesn’t get nearly enough screentime. S4 – give us the content we deserve lol.

Oh, I agree, they’re great and it’s really easy and fun to be their fans because of how engaged they are with the fandom and if the writers were smart they’d capitalize buuut at this point, after seeing so many actresses’ charisma and chemistry squandered, I try to separate it from my investment in the fictional ship. I think in this case it just so worked out that Danielle is super hard-working and engaged on SM and pulled along an admittedly totally willing and compatible Stefania, but the ship could absolutely still go south and this could fizzle out, or vice versa, and that’d be that. I mean, I’m absolutely still gonna lap up whatever content they put out, but still trying to compartmentalize, however successfully.

I only knew about the Dani/Stef live because of the ask you got and I don’t really watch celeb stuff like that but everything sucks and it was there and I’m actually really glad I did. Obviously celebs are people and owe us nothing but it was so nice as a black woman to see two white women speaking so frankly about their unconscious biases/racism and not be all self righteous about it? When they started I was so wary but it was interesting. Just a nice change esp from nonblack celebs.

Oh, yeah! I was nervous about it, people are revealing so much about themselves in these times. When it seemed like they were going to veer away from any discussion in favor of “distraction”, as they had already said before it started, I was actually relieved, but I’m glad when they DID bring it up, it was mostly from a place of understanding why it was happening and, as you said, acknowledging their biases and privilege and what their role was.