Ivy in the comics is less bored, chill, sarcastic and indifferent and more cold, calculated, sexy, intelligent and generally entirely misanthropic. There are a LOT of opportunities to read her as asexual/lesbian/both. I love how she detests humanity, not because of social awkwardness but for political and existential reasons. And that makes her devotion to harley very special.

Oh, hmm, hmm. I mean, I do get her hating people in general in the show, although from 2×06 it seems to stem from her parents and not social awkwardness? But still, I think I get what you’re saying. And that DOES make her Harley exception all the more unique.

The only other version of her I really know is Uma Thurman in that one movie and I barely remember it. THAT was definitely different from this one, but also seems to be different from what you’re describing. Maybe I should try some of these comics…

I was about to start watching vagrant queen but the comment about the violence put me off. I thought it would be a fun adventure show like killjoys, but I take it it’s not the case?

Oh, it is, it’s campy and goofy, more so than KJ maybe, and I guess that’s how I take the violence, but the other anon’s not wrong, every once in a while you’ll see people being tortured or hurting themselves and it’s just…there, not even that cartoonish, though it’s treated like it is, and then we just move on from that back to the jokes. It’s not particularly to my sense of humor, but it’s also not a dealbreaker for me.