Okay, so, this is from weeks ago, and I’m so sorry I didn’t answer earlier, but good lord, did you see today’s?? They DO get along well, huh. I could not have imagined being here with actresses from a ship, after getting the occasional selfie or interview. Yeah, the one with Emma was a nice surprise, the way she dropped those tidbits she knew the fans would be hanging on for, but today. :O
I do get what you mean about it making you root for the couple harder, and I totally see how, though personally I try to separate that as like, bonus content because I don’t want the ship to be defined by that. Lol, although I’m still kind of laughing helplessly at today’s live, because that’s almost the better making of a romance than what we saw on S19.
In terms of f/f content? I guess if we’re speaking about new f/f that I haven’t posted much about, there’s (varying levels of spoilers for all):
Betty on HBO – Four eps in, kind of a laid back look at female street skateboarders, at least two of the main cast, Kirt and Honeybear, are wlw, with side character love interests each
Hightown on Starz – Two eps in, lesbian lead Jackie Quinones, gonna be compared to Stumptown a lot, for obvious reasons, but the tone is much grittier
Alles was Zaht, a long-running German soap – This storyline having started building since March, Ina’s already out, Chiara’s image-conscious and going through a coming out arc
Skam France – Five eps in, I guess, I don’t know much about this, but you know how it goes with Skam, a character focus per season, this season’s main is Lola and I guess she’s having a time of it, from what it looks like, lol, the love interest being Maya
Homecoming on Amazon Prime – The second season dropped on Thursday, it’s not an anthology series but the first season’s lead was Julia Roberts and it switches to focus on an entirely new character played by Janelle Monae in the second, and while it would spoil a lot to reveal even the premise of the show I will say that Janalle Monae’s character is involved with a woman and Hong Chau, Lady Trieu in HBO’s Watchmen, is in both seasons. It’s not necessarily a happy ending, nor are the characters even particularly rootable, but I chose to take it as optimistic.
Defending Jacob on Apple+ – Seven eps in, one of the side characters, the lawyer for the suspect, is played by Cherry Jones, lesbian in real life (and Sarah Paulson’s ex), also married to a lady in the show, though we just get a mention of it, but I just thought it was nice 😮
Control Z on Netflix – A LOT of spoilers on this one, lol: The first season dropped on Friday, a goddamn mess of a show, one of those Gossip Girl/Elite type high school dramas, where students keep getting their secrets revealed to the rest of the school, but one of the first and biggest secrets is revealing a popular girl is trans, and that’s just…mean. To place that on the same level as affairs and drugs and whatever. Maybe the actress, also trans, found it cathartic, obviously no judgment on her AT ALL, not like the roles out there are plenty, but it just feels cruel to put that kind of bullying on a character when it’s sensationalized and there’s so little to balance it out there. And she does seem to have a triumphant arc, so there’s that. Anyway, there’s an out lesbian, Alex, with her own secret (she’s having an affair with a teacher, yeah, like I said, that kind of show).
Snowpiercer on TNT – Two eps in, plain reboot of the movie, two of the characters introduced in the first ep, Bess and Jinju, haven’t interacted onscreen yet (that I’ve noticed) were making out in the trailer, lol.
Run on HBO – First season finished yesterday, I guess, also not watching this, but PWB shows up in the last three eps of the season according to IMDB, with her love interest played by Tamara Podemski (who also plays a wlw on Coroner, so yay)
so I’m sure the thought of having even deeper feelings terrified her which is why she was so quick to want to brush it off. I do think she loves Kite Man (though how she isn’t more annoyed by his occasional “bro-ness” I will always find ooc for her, I don’t see Ivy finding it nearly as endearing as the writers have decided and it does make me cringe a bit). But overall he is a nice, caring guy and deep down I think she knows he does love her more than she loves him. (2/3)
And to Ivy that is the safer option that she wants to cling onto right now, but she won’t be able to fight off her stronger feelings for Harley much longer. If anything I was just hoping they wouldn’t drag the love triangle for the whole rest of the season with a long cheating subplot, but alas that does seem to be what might happen. Also sorry for multiple asks but apparently I had long thoughts on this! (3/3)
Oh! That’s a really great point. Between the two of them, Ivy has so much solely invested in Harley. The show’s emphasized that again and again. In ep 9, when they fought over Harley joining the LOD:
And like, Ivy was right that the LOD sucked and they’d literally told her they were gonna reject Harley, but Harley getting accepted didn’t need to turn into this.
And after Harley bailed on Ivy to go meet up with Joker, from ep 11:
Like, this was part of the whole season 1 finale arc, Ivy being upset at the mere idea of losing Harley.
And then as you said! From this week’s ep:
You’re so right. For someone who’s already so scared of losing Harley as a friend (and the fact that she sets herself up as the alternate to the Joker for Harley’s time and affections and doesn’t even realize), the emotional risk from being in a romantic relationship with all the additional volatility and chance for messiness that comes from it… It’s understandable, why she’d shy away from that.
As for the triangle, yeah, I’d been hoping this ep would be the start of some meaningful change, but they really are gonna drag this out, it looks like. I really wanted to see them together and how that’d affect them in this world we’ve already seen a season and a half of, their relationship with each other and other people except now as romantic partners. It’d be so different from what any other show’s done because they’re just so central, they drive all the plot, and any other time we’ve seen lead characters in f/f relationships that develop on the show, it’s either a very temporary thing over almost as soon as it begins or it happened in literally the series finale. Like, how is each wacky plot of the week gonna be affected by this major change, especially when we have their friendship to contrast it against?
ON the other hand. I do really, really love getting that payoff after an angsty slow burn, like with Atypical, or after the suspense and tension from Killjoys’ last season, and I feel like for this show, I can’t really think of any other way to slow things down and add that suspense aside from a third party? The cheating’s not necessary, of course, that’s on the writers, but like, without him there, there’d be no real reason they wouldn’t just talk this through earlier, there’s not the same societal pressure or homophobia you’d get in other stories. Yes, yes, the fear of being in love with your best friend, but like, Harley in yesterday’s ep would have 100% said something without him there, right. So as much as I hate him, I get his narrative value here and I don’t mind this being drawn out.
Oh, and no worries about the multiple asks! Clearly I have a lot to say about this too!
Oof, you don’t want to see that. it’s scattered in different places and would be pages long as just a comma-separated word list. I will say that anything I’m particularly interested in I usually do get around to watching soon after it’s mentioned. Not to say there aren’t surprises where I thought I wasn’t going to like something as much as I did but the longer it stays on the list, the more it gets pushed down, since I add to the beginning and when I watch take it off. Here’s the start of the one I use now, with the movies in bold and any TV show I have at least one ep left of:
Why’d you want to know? Just curious or as like, a rec list?
Damn, that’s a lot of investment! I’d be wary too, hell, I’m wary now. If you hadn’t brought it up, I wouldn’t even have thought that’s where they were going, but I guess there’s always a possibility. Some people might think it’s “more” progressive or just flat out more interesting/edgy/surprising, which, can’t rule out that these writers might want to go there. But–and I may look dumb in a few weeks–it seems odd to play it this way if the end goal is, wait, I can be with both people, like THAT’s the big realization here, you know?
Except for her inexplicable interest in Kite guy, I always see where Ivy’s coming from but in today’s ep I do agree, I expected a bit more introspection from her. But I can also see it as the show not wanting to write her and Harley with the same storyline and approach through this and if she actually stops and thinks about it, either the angst they’re having fun drawing out with Kite douche stops or they’ll make her look a lot worse cheating when she could just put a stop to it.
Oh, huh, you think so? I dunno, this feels kind of linear and deliberate, a specific journey and tropes and obstacles. If that were what they were doing, I don’t know if this would be the route they’d take? Maybe… I’d hate it, if so, lol.
Nope. Maybe once all new content runs out I’ll go back and watch all these f/f (”all”, lol) movies I haven’t yet. A wild weekend of Carol, The Handmaiden, The Half of It, The Favourite, Rafiki, Portrait, Hearts Beat Loud, Signature Move, etc. I’ll let y’all know my thoughts. 😮
