I know there’s only the finale left but if they’re continuing with Carina and Maya then going forward I wanna see her people on the show too. I watch Greys off and on but I’m caught up and I wannna see her and her brother in a scene on ’19. Talking about their issues. I mean Vic’s basically a Greys regular because of Jackson. And Ben but that makes sense coz he was actually on there so they can let us have this small thing. Otherwise I’m ready for them to relase Carina tbh she’s been through IT

Noooo, I don’t want her released! I love her and don’t want to watch Grey’s. But yeah, of course, ideally we see a lot more of her in and her background in S19, including her brother. Have he and Maya even met? 

And another anon:

I’m staying with S19, but that’s because I genuinely like the show and Maya is still my favorite character. She’s incredibly flawed and very much hurts the people she cares about, but she’s as fascinating as she is frustrating. The Maya/Carina relationship was a bonus for me because I thought the show wanted Maya/Jack. I very much prefer her with Carina but to date the relationship is so one-sided and Carina is almost too perfect. I have a feeling Maya’s world is about to rocked though in 3×16.

Exactly! Well. I don’t always love the show, it’s just so much drama. But I did like it on its own and as long as Maya isn’t with Jack, I’ll watch. That is my true dealbreaker, not even Maya/Carina splitting up. I don’t know if Maya is my favorite in terms of personality (that might actually be Travis), but very early on they revealed she was bi so I’ve always kept an eye out and been interested in her character and sympathetic because of that. And until there was an actual ship and I got invested in her not messing up, it was easier to approach the show as something where people messed up constantly and I didn’t hate them for it. 

I don’t really know why they broke up Maya/Jack, tbh, and maybe the other anon is right and that’ll be the eventual endgame, but for now, I’ll happily accept as much Carina as we can get, and as you said, some more balance and depth. I don’t know how much time there’ll be in the finale but I can’t imagine there’ll be room for much except a flat breakup. Surely whatever’ll happen Maya has to expect? And it’s such a packed episode description, if it hadn’t been for Stefania in the cast list, I wouldn’t even have thought she’d be in it. I’ll continue my finale introspection below.

And another anon:

I know it’s hard to even speculate after what happened this week, but how do you think things are going to go down in the s19 finale? And as a part 2, how do you want them to go down since both will probably be different answers haha

Hmm, based on the preview and summary and full cast list, and the fact that it’s a season finale, I expect very little for them. I discussed a whole bunch of extremely varying outcomes with my friend, from “I don’t want Maya to be the one to get hurt and Carina is all worried and forgives her because that skips over all the work Maya has to do” to “I don’t want Maya to get hurt and DIE because Danielle cut her hair so drastically before quarantine even started so does that mean she won’t be on next season” but lol, I don’t think it’ll be either of those. 

I think they’ll mostly be separated into their actual jobs, Maya as captain and Carina off in Grey’s doing whatever. Although I dunno why an OB/GYN is needed when–oh, right, this was one of their full crossover events, so it’s basically two hours of both shows mixed together and we’ll be missing an important chunk of what would have been shown during Grey’s. So it’s not even going to get its proper resolution, unless they truly would not have been in the Grey’s ep. Damn. Well, maybe we can hope Maya’s part was written to be resolved during S19 and Grey’s would have been the medical doctory stuff and not much on the personal drama. I think we’ll probably see something like her reading a text from Carina or trying to write one and then maybe it’ll end with her going to her dad’s or mom’s and we’ll be left to wonder with what motive?

What I WANT is Maya going to therapy, talking things out, making up with her mom, and then of groveling to Carina for half an hour and admitting all the ways Carina’s been right and how very sorry she is and what she’s doing to change and then in a parallel of 3×07, when she was mean about the lasagna, offering Carina an out which Carina doesn’t take.

I don’t know if you watched private practice but the Maya Carina stuff reminds me of the Charlotte Cooper stuff. Charlotte self sabotaged like Maya. In one scene Charlotte busts into cooper’s office and just blurts out that she cheated on him to purposely hurt him and then tries to walk away. Cooper stops her and says “you can’t just say that and walk away. You purposely did this so I would have to break up with you but it won’t work” and says that this is the last mistake she’s allowed to make

And another anon:

After the last Station 19 episode, Maya and Carina are now kind of reminding me of another Shondaland couple: Cooper and Charlotte from Private Practice. Cooper and Carina are the “kind and caring” characters while Maya and Charlotte are the “broken” ones. Fingers crossed that Maya and Carina will have the same conclusion to the relationship.

Oh, huh. I know very little about Private Practice and in fact had completely forgotten it existed, so I kept on thinking it was just Grey’s and S19 (and the last spinoff, my favorite, where Cristina Yang goes to Europe to work for MI6 and falls in love with a Russian assassin) and was still like, this franchise is super messy, we can’t have high expectations. I’d forgotten this whole new set of messy data points. 

Um, hmm, the fact that they already did self-sabotage through self-sabotage and had the cheated on party not break up doesn’t give me hope for that here, since they most likely won’t repeat a plot. Although obviously what happens from here on isn’t even so much on Carina as it is Maya getting some goddamned help and making amends. In terms of an ending, it IS encouraging that it isn’t seen as a long-term relationship-ender and at the moment, I think it’s wide open what could happen.

And another anon:

All those couples were still endgame despite all the problems. Merder only wasn’t because derek died, Arizona ended up going to new york for callie, mark lexie again couldn’t bc of death, but there’s always still an endgame for the most part. I dont see the show putting their characters longterm with someone who isnt a regular. Love to be wrong so we’ll see. Hopefully they dont throw away the chemistry

Heh, I don’t know if you can use “only” when the person dies. Although, I do get your point, but still, those couples all went through just as much mess as Carina and Maya. Or more to the point, I don’t really see Maya and Jack being treated that way, at no point during the weeks until this did we see Jack being jealous or even reacting to Maya and Carina, he’s been far more about Andy, and even with that “I know you better than anyone” line the whole conversation was to get them to sleep together so Maya could throw that in Carina’s face and that’s what we ended on. I think it’s up in the air, tbh, no endgame locked in for either of them and maybe not even a super concrete plot for a next season that looks very distant right now.

Do you think Carina was too forcefully in trying to get Maya to see her father was abusive?

Huh. You know, that’s interesting. I mean, obviously, Maya was sooooo far out of line and the one in the wrong there, that’s without question, and in fact, the “too” implies that Carina in ANY way caused what happened, so in that sense, no, not at all. 

But if we’re just looking at that day, taking away Maya’s actions altogether, let’s pretend she walked away angry and had a run and then came back to an empty house and that was that. So if we just look at Carina’s behavior where she kept pressing after Maya showed how uncomfortable she was, actually, as a matter of fact, I’d been trying to think of how Maya should have handled it? What more should she have said or done? She told Carina in pretty clear terms to drop the subject, repeatedly. She even told Carina to leave the house and she wouldn’t. There was no immediate threat to Maya that this needed to be addressed right then. So maybe Carina should have dropped it for the time being, not bringing it up in the kitchen once it’d already been halted in bed. 

BUT, on the other hand, clearly Carina had waited since the last time! And their relationship, from the very first second, has been a series of Maya initially reluctant to do something that Carina suggested super gently and eventually listening and being SO much happier for it (ironically, I was going to make a gifset of those moments >_<). So there’s no reason to think that wouldn’t be the case here, where not only Maya but her mom, another victim, were suffering until this could start to be processed. And of course it helps that we have perfect knowledge because this is fiction, we know that Maya was getting upset not because Carina was violating her boundaries but because she was getting too close to the truth, we know that Carina wasn’t bringing this up for some power trip, she just wanted Maya to be healthy and happy. 

Ultimately, this is just an exercise in debate, going back and forth, if Maya hadn’t escalated the situation like that, there could have been an argument that Carina was starting to push it a bit far, like, if you’d seen just until the kitchen argument, you might have thought, all right, let it go. But Maya went nuclear without warning, and so none of the rest matters. Whatever she’d already tried, there were still steps before this. 

@nymeria-rhoynar replied to your postHello I’m a new international fan of Juliantina,…

They made those episodes available on YouTube, and some very dedicated fans made subs for it. Someone posted about it here maybe a week ago: juliantinaooc.tumblr.co…

Ohhh, wow, that’s super neat. Thanks for bringing it up!

Okay, so if I understand correctly, first install the Subtitles for Youtube Chrome extension. If you’re in a blocked location and need to use Opera for its VPN, the extension can also be added there.

Once it’s installed, go to the official videos on Youtube: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkCy4Z7pxQ0

And the subtitles should appear automatically. What an undertaking by those fans, and what an achievement!

Your favorite word is Heh

And “lol”. It’s so hard to convey tone online and I still use full casing and periods so I feel like I come off a bit dry if I don’t add those to soften my comments. 😮 <- Like that too. 😛 <– And that. 

Hello I’m a new international fan of Juliantina, I’ve watched all episodes of Amar a meurte but I’m confused if the 19 episode Juliantina spin off is a whole different story? I can’t seem to find these videos anywhere, do you know where I’ll be able to watch these 19 full episodes and if english subs are available?

Hey, welcome! I hope you enjoyed them.

Those 19 eps are basically the official re-edit of their scenes only, released here: 

https://www.lasestrellas.tv/telenovelas/juliantina

It’s mostly what you’ve already seen but with a few key differences, some scenes are longer or use different takes, a few deleted scenes have been put in, most notably from the finale, so those might be worth a watch. But you’ll need a Mexican VPN to access the site above and it’s not subbed. I’m actually not entirely sure where you can find those extra scenes subbed, but they must be around somewhere… Does anyone know?