My favorite thing about Killjoys (other than Aneela/Delle Seyah ofc) is how every female character(small role or otherwise)thinks Dutch is hot. And what’s better is HOW the show executes it. Dutch is often treated like a male lead would in a sci-fi, which is so refreshing. She has women swooning over her good looks and badass attitude but they don’t make it weird! She goes w it, even smirking/laughing along or flirting back. There’s no queerbait-y vibe about any of it, yknow? It feels so normal!

Yes! Yes, exactly. While season 5 was airing my friend and were discussing why (one of the reasons) it wasn’t as big a hit as other campy, fun, smart scifi shows among certain people was that it had such a female gaze. Like you said, Dutch is treated like how male leads are treated, everyone wants her, everyone wants to be with her, everyone wants to be around her. But at the same time, she doesn’t abandon compassion or treat people the way many male leads do. 

And all the men around her, all the good guys, have such a baseline of decency. No matter how grumpy and surly they may actually be, whether it’s Turin or literal Fancy “Asshole” Lee, they start from a place where you can absolutely trust them around Dutch or any woman. Johnny and D’av are like, fantasy versions of guys, just filled with devotion and respect and love for Dutch. She is the center of the show in a way we so rarely see. Even in many female-led series, you have writers using those women to prop up male characters. But this show loves Dutch. It is about her and it treats her so well.

With other female characters, who are all very much their own person, there isn’t that frisson of rivalry or jealousy because that love for Dutch carries over. She’s just that cool and smart and pretty, of course women are going to love her too. Of course Zeph’s going to have a major crush on her. When literal villain Delle Seyah was introduced, it ended with her being IMPRESSED by Dutch and flirting with her, as suspicious and selfish a person as Delle Seyah was. And because they’ve had this seasons-long soulmate true love arc with Delle Seyah and Aneela, they’re able to play around with it for Dutch without any kind of sourness because it’s only ever teased.

Carina’s really nice to fans (she’s even interacted with me on twitter personally), I’m confused by what the last anon said (she definitely has a “take no shit” attitude, but Roswell’s got some really toxic, stalker-y fans, I wouldn’t say it’s her fault.

And another anon:

i’m so confused by that other anon, Malex (mlm ship from rnm) is one of the show’s two big ships… they’re huge in the show and i’ve never heard a bad thing about them/her.

I didn’t know so many people who followed me watched Roswell, heh. I didn’t mean for this to be a thing, I loved Freelin in TO s4 specifically and associated it with her, two years ago. I don’t really know enough to have an opinion otherwise and given that the fandom situation is heated, I don’t really want to get more into it. I’m not dismissing the complaints as just upset fans, often extreme fandoms are spurred on by writers, but this was a throwaway comment about a throwaway comment, not really what I’m looking to spend my time on.

If that writer of the Originals is Carina Adley, I will have to unfollow, even if it hurts me. She thinks that giving some gay content is worth the world, despite really awful writing. That woman has no respect for the fans and treats them like garbage. You can look into it here on tumblr, there are lots of comments about it.

Oh no, it is her. I just remember liking some of what she said for TO s4 re: Freelin, defending them against backlash. Sad to hear about the rest.