Omggg Dutch categorizing their relationship as “hate flirting.” TBH the writers haaaaad to do Delle seyah/aneela Bc this shit is BLATANT & I for one woulda been pissed if I’d been an ongoing viewer and they kept teasing me like this w no follow thru lol. Delle seyah on the verge of passing out & Dutch telling her not to fantasize about this later Bc she was half carrying her omfg they’re cute I hate that I ship this lol

Oh, THAT ep. Oof, yep, they have a few eps that are extra shippy and that was the final one. And probably the most explicitly so. 

For real, it was getting to be on the verge of genuinely promising something. Obviously many shows have gone farther and then ultimately done less, but I guess they were just like, why not? I might be misremembering, but I think I read that Aneela was always planned (it was Delle Seyah who stayed longer than intended by being that watchable), so they just decided to take advantage of their chemistry and put them together in at least this form? 

Which was super weird because Aneela is SO MUCH not Dutch. Dutch has a sense of humor, warmth, she’s savvy. Aneela…might have a sense of humor and be savvy, heh, but not like Dutch. I joked with my friend that Aneela is Helena to Duch’s Sarah Manning but she’s also…Rachel? Though maybe their massive differences made it easier to accept the substitution? 

I just deleted a bunch of stuff that was probably unnecessarily spoilery, even though I assume you know the gist of the following seasons. Let me know how the watching goes! 

I started watching KJ and can I just say asdfghjkl I’m glad I know Aneela/Delle Seyah happens Bc I’m out here lowkey shipping delle seyah and Dutch rn lol. “I snap, you come” “you must be one hell of a snapper then” I mean cmooooon Kendry sounds almost as thirsty as Root was circa meeting Shaw. And Dutch is teasing her back I mean what is thiiiiis. So glad I know about aneela lol

Lowkey?? I was heavily shipping them, anon! Didn’t really think it’d happen, obviously, but it was so overt! It wasn’t the same as most other f/f subtext ships. As you said, it was a lot like Root’s interest in Shaw, flirting so heavily any time they met while Shaw/Dutch would roll their eyes but not be TOTALLY averse and then we know what happened there. 

And, and, I liked them as people together, it wasn’t just shipping any ole two hot ladies who interacted, Delle Seyah seemed genuinely intrigued by Dutch’s different sides, they matched so well against each other, actually being on each other’s level.

When Aneela/Delle Seyah started, I was NOT a fan! I was like, who is this usurper? They think they can just throw in some lookalike and we’ll forget about Delle Seyah/Dutch? That’s not gonna happen! But man, Aneela is NOT a replacement? I don’t know what she is, how you could define her or that archetype, she’s just so much her own person and interesting in her way. And the way she and Delle Seyah connected was so fitting.

But yeah, I have thought about that, how weird it must be for you all to know to not get attached to Delle Seyah/Dutch as you start. I think it’s better that way? But the alternative was still pretty fun. :>

It’s me again, the kill Joys anon. I really did want to like it and tried once again, this time with s3 but I guess you’re right. Maybe it just isn’t my taste. Why do I feel like I’m somehow disappointing you by saying that? Lol…I’ve liked the other stuff I’ve seen on your tumblr tho and will probably like lots more that you’re bound to recommend

Heh, anon, no worries. It’s just a show. I like a lot of things more than I should and like a lot of them less than they deserve. I’m disappointed for you, if anything, it was a thing I enjoyed, I hoped you would be able to feel the same things I did, you didn’t, well, always more shows on the horizon.

It’s kind of funny, after seeing the big scifi trailers drop earlier, Killjoys is like a little baby compared to The Expanse and Trek. Maybe you’ll like them. 

Your other Killjoys anon could try this Green Queens compilation from s3. youtube kRtmquwMeuQ

Thanks, anon, that’s also definitely a suggestion! 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRtmquwMeuQ

Wow, 84 minutes of content in a 10 ep season. God, it just reminds me, season 3 really was so good with everything, the music, the epic scale of everything, tying things into religion and politics, balancing so many elements, weaving that dreamy, fairytale thread through everything. It really leveled up. If you want, you can watch just this, Aneela’s tied into so much you’ll get a lot of the background and worldbuilding just from her story. 

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my turning point episode for me was episode 4, because of the world building & political back and forth between Dutch and Delle Seyah. and then the last few episodes sealed Killjoys for me

Yeah, but this anon specifically mentions ep 4, which was Delle Seyah’s intro. It was the surrogate ep, so a lot of the Qreshi politics were at play. I feel like if you’re not at least intrigued by then…

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I felt similarly. I actually gave up after episode five in season 1, but I’m glad I came back a few years later and gave it another shot. I just skipped straight to season 3 (the latest season at the time) and that’s when I got hooked on it, but I did get to season 2 eventually, and I did enjoy it more than season 1.

Oh, well, anon, see, more testimonials for s3! The reason I’m hesitant to immediately tell people to start there is because it’s partly so good because it’s built on the dynamics and characters we’ve known for two seasons already. But it did feel more mature and deeper by then too. I think you’d be okay with starting from there and going back if you wanted more.

Hi, I’ve been following you for quite some time and you always recommend some great books and shows. I decided to check out kill joys coz of your recent gifs but I’m struggling to make it past the first 4eps. I guess my question is, when does it get good? If that even makes sense lol

Well, that’s flattering, anon! But, hmm, I don’t know if it does improve to your tastes, if you’re struggling to even watch. It may just not be your thing. I didn’t immediately rank it as an all-time fave back then, that happened after s4 when I was able to say, okay, I really loved what they did in s3 and s4, but I did like the first season. I liked Dutch and Johnny even when Delle Seyah wasn’t around. It was funny, fun, and HJK is just always going to be super gorgeous and entertaining to watch.

I really loved the deeper mythology that unfolded around Aneela, who casts a shadow over much of s2 but really only appears in 2×10 and after, but to understand her parts, it’d help to know about Khlyen, who pops up randomly from the start. Maybe skip to s3 and just watch the previouslys and pick up things from context and go ahead from there?