It was so bad. So unnecessarily bad. So logic-defyingly, character-contradictingly bad. And to be that bad in that moment. Arghhhh. It was so easy to not be that bad!
Kana are endgame. It’s been confirmed by someone on twitter who knows all the spoilers and storylines first. A bit of hope for the future, I guess.
Well, inasmuch as a soap couple can be endgame. 😛 Here’s your reassurance, worried anon.
Kana are endgame. It’s been confirmed by someone on twitter who knows all the spoilers and storylines first. A bit of hope for the future, I guess.
Well, inasmuch as a soap couple can be endgame. 😛 Here’s your reassurance, worried anon.
You used the writing as an excuse for Kate’s actions after the reveal so why can’t you do the same for zee? The situations aren’t the same obviously but in both cases it’s the writing that’s making the characters act ott
You’re right and I have mentioned it, several times, it’s the writing that’s going to make Zee act like this, and then after Wednesday, bunched Kate together with him. I did post those tags about being angry with him in the heat of the moment so things may change in a few months as I predicted, but like you said, the situations are different and that might be enough for me here. I’m just gonna list my thoughts out in an effort to organize them:
Kate’s actions aren’t just OOC, they’re inexplicable. Until a certain point they remain understandable and sympathetic and then they’re neither. Her behavior is so forced it’s difficult NOT to see the writer’s hand. She does a complete about face and then barely acknowledges something that was consuming her life days before. Zee, while OOC from how we regarded him before, remains understandable. He’s doing all this because he wants to hurt Rana, the narrative could not be more clear. And while it may be forced to progress the plot, literally everything in fiction is to progress a plot and his actions since the reveal haven’t come out of nowhere or been inconsistent within themselves. So it’s easier to accept them as part of him.
It’s ALSO easier to accept them as part of him because they diverge from his base characterization less than Kate’s did hers. Like, actually, for Kate, participating in an affair itself was a literally out of character thing that was explained by this being a new feeling for her even though it was also kind of a forced plot thing when honest self-righteous Kate could have just waited longer. But as you know, soaps. But Kate sobbing about seeing Rana and Zee together physically hurting her and then in the same day just brushing off the fact their affair has been revealed, partly at her hands…where is the consistency in that? On the other hand, Zee was an occasionally jealous, possessive boyfriend who became a chill husband who’s now furious at his cheating wife and doing everything he can to hurt her. His characterization doesn’t have to stretch as far to encompass his new actions.
Ultimately, I don’t really care enough about Zee in the moment to do the work to put everything aside and continue liking him. Why should I? What does he have to offer aside from being a somewhat nice Muslim guy, which he isn’t even anymore? He’s going to out someone for the sole purpose of hurting them. His character’s going to have to acknowledge the horrors of that and apologize for me to even consider liking him again.
You used the writing as an excuse for Kate’s actions after the reveal so why can’t you do the same for zee? The situations aren’t the same obviously but in both cases it’s the writing that’s making the characters act ott
You’re right and I have mentioned it, several times, it’s the writing that’s going to make Zee act like this, and then after Wednesday, bunched Kate together with him. I did post those tags about being angry with him in the heat of the moment so things may change in a few months as I predicted, but like you said, the situations are different and that might be enough for me here. I’m just gonna list my thoughts out in an effort to organize them:
Kate’s actions aren’t just OOC, they’re inexplicable. Until a certain point they remain understandable and sympathetic and then they’re neither. Her behavior is so forced it’s difficult NOT to see the writer’s hand. She does a complete about face and then barely acknowledges something that was consuming her life days before. Zee, while OOC from how we regarded him before, remains understandable. He’s doing all this because he wants to hurt Rana, the narrative could not be more clear. And while it may be forced to progress the plot, literally everything in fiction is to progress a plot and his actions since the reveal haven’t come out of nowhere or been inconsistent within themselves. So it’s easier to accept them as part of him.
It’s ALSO easier to accept them as part of him because they diverge from his base characterization less than Kate’s did hers. Like, actually, for Kate, participating in an affair itself was a literally out of character thing that was explained by this being a new feeling for her even though it was also kind of a forced plot thing when honest self-righteous Kate could have just waited longer. But as you know, soaps. But Kate sobbing about seeing Rana and Zee together physically hurting her and then in the same day just brushing off the fact their affair has been revealed, partly at her hands…where is the consistency in that? On the other hand, Zee was an occasionally jealous, possessive boyfriend who became a chill husband who’s now furious at his cheating wife and doing everything he can to hurt her. His characterization doesn’t have to stretch as far to encompass his new actions.
Ultimately, I don’t really care enough about Zee in the moment to do the work to put everything aside and continue liking him. Why should I? What does he have to offer aside from being a somewhat nice Muslim guy, which he isn’t even anymore? He’s going to out someone for the sole purpose of hurting them. His character’s going to have to acknowledge the horrors of that and apologize for me to even consider liking him again.
The shows saddening, but some people’s reactions… just highlights how closeminded some people are as they can’t even begin to understand what’s difficult about Rana’s situation. There’s also a culture of blame ‘Rana’s in a free society, holding onto a backward religion or culture etc.’ not understanding how dire the consequences could potentially be.
Yep. On top of how painful it is to simply watch Rana’s story, it becomes exponentially worse to see real people be so indifferent or even blame her (and all the people like her) for everything. This is why I’m not sure if it’s worth showing so much of her suffering. For what? Who? People aren’t going to get it. They can see all this, how conflicted and terrified and guilty she was through the whole thing and still think, she’s a cheater so whatever. Or why does she care about what her family thinks? Is the gap still too big to bridge? Or is Corrie not good enough at telling this story? Or are those the loud minority and other people are more contemplative about it? Who knows.
The shows saddening, but some people’s reactions… just highlights how closeminded some people are as they can’t even begin to understand what’s difficult about Rana’s situation. There’s also a culture of blame ‘Rana’s in a free society, holding onto a backward religion or culture etc.’ not understanding how dire the consequences could potentially be.
Yep. On top of how painful it is to simply watch Rana’s story, it becomes exponentially worse to see real people be so indifferent or even blame her (and all the people like her) for everything. This is why I’m not sure if it’s worth showing so much of her suffering. For what? Who? People aren’t going to get it. They can see all this, how conflicted and terrified and guilty she was through the whole thing and still think, she’s a cheater so whatever. Or why does she care about what her family thinks? Is the gap still too big to bridge? Or is Corrie not good enough at telling this story? Or are those the loud minority and other people are more contemplative about it? Who knows.
Kana are gonna get back together right?!
I would say so, barring sudden extenuating circumstances like an actress leaving. I’d said before that it’s going to be slower than we are used to (and slower than we want!) and even though they’ve hurried the reveals, they’re not hurrying anything else. But I’m sure any other soap watcher, including non-shipping Corrie viewers, can tell you where it’s headed.
Kana are gonna get back together right?!
I would say so, barring sudden extenuating circumstances like an actress leaving. I’d said before that it’s going to be slower than we are used to (and slower than we want!) and even though they’ve hurried the reveals, they’re not hurrying anything else. But I’m sure any other soap watcher, including non-shipping Corrie viewers, can tell you where it’s headed.
Coronation Street – 2018-02-07 pt2