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So I have Questions for the creative decisions behind Harley Quinn lol this will be the last negative-ish ask but I’ve been a Harley/Ivy fan for like a decade at this point so I’m kinda baffled. They really had ivy with kite guy (!!! HIM????) and she woulda gone thru w the wedding & pushes Harley away and we didn’t get a single moment of her internal processes w it all even tho we got a literal song about ocean shit for king shark ??? What is that??? I’m gonna take the win but (1/2)

there is an arctic monkeys lyrics that goes “I’d probably still adore you with your hands around my neck… oh I did last time I checked”

Lol, you can send however many negative asks you want. 

I cannot imagine shipping them for a decade and seeing Ivy as how y’all have described her and then seeing her with this dude. I mean, I can’t imagine THIS character with him. I think we just gotta accept that sometimes they just want their faves and humor and to NOT be serious and consistent and process stuff? I guess? Like that lyric says. As long as they focus on Harley and Ivy in the end, we have to accept the other things these particular people want. Like, I’m already side eyeing what they might do with Gordon, in the wake of the current situation. 

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The more time passes, the more I come around on the HQ finale. I had high expectations because I loved ep 12 so I was annoyed that we had a time skip and didn’t SEE any of the fall out. And of course that Kiteface was the one who broke it off – I do wish we’d seen more from Ivy. BUT the ending is just so romantic and lovely! And I’d seen the original car from the BTAS episode in the 90s so it hit me hard! And the colors!! Plus, Ivy’s face in the confession got me too :)

Anon! Honestly, same?? I mean, I’m never going to not wish it’d been more, but I also have been thinking on it and realizing I’ve been judging it a lot for what it didn’t have, like you said, the fallout, more discussion, which, there should/could have been, but them skipping it, them making different decisions and prioritizing different things from what I want doesn’t make a thing automatically bad, right. 

But having said all that as a little disclaimer, lol, with distance, I’ve warmed to it. Which I’m grateful for, since often it can go the other way. As you said, the ending did a WHOLE lot of heavy lifting and will definitely be what I remember from the ep. And maybe that’s because, as I keep saying, everything that came before could have come at any point in the last few episodes, Harley offering something, Ivy turning her down. Once Harley had her big moment in the pit, the narrative became more about Ivy’s decision, and since we didn’t even really see her come around to make it in the finale until that ending (and ignoring that KM jump-started it), it’s really the significant moment from the whole thing. 

BUT. That doesn’t make everything before it unimportant, it was all a part of getting to there. I understand why it wasn’t an immediate decision for Ivy as well, maybe each time Harley helped her or chose her, it lowered her guard a little more, and then her actually saving her wedding and willing to marry them was the biggest sign, how much she was willing to put Ivy first. Like, I can appreciate that even as I have my own different wishes.

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Ok, but nothing will ever get me like the fact that Harley doesn’t learn until years later that Joker’s story about his abusive childhood was stolen from Ivy. The sob story that started Harley on the path to falling in love with Joker in the original Mad Love comic being repurposed for the HQ series to show that Harley fell in love with the wrong person and it could have been Ivy from the beginning really gets me.

Ooooh, I didn’t know that! I mean, from that other comic! That’s so awesome. Even as it was already within just 2×06, I loved it! I think I started to actually annoy my friend a bit how many times I was like, but, see, THAT’s the VERY THING, that HE and then SHE–BUT THEN IT WAS ACTUALLY HER STORY ALL ALONG and my friend was very patiently like, yes 🙂 you said, already, a few times, indeed. Like, s2 did do a lot of things so well, and that was one of them, showing that first meeting between seemingly Harley and Joker but pivoting to Harley and Ivy, including that very story. That kind of deliberate setup is something I’m always going to adore about canon stories.

But looking up this Mad Love comic, wow, so it’s even more iconic and a bigger and deeper tie-in than I was thinking! Something from 1994 used to reinforce Harlivy…like, that’s plain soulmate evidence. Thanks so much for telling me! Man, I’m starting to get pretty interested in these two beyond just the show, just to see callbacks like this and Rose Bud and Harley’s immunity, these historical references starting to take new meaning and shaping their new canon future. It’s so cool to see it happening right in front of us.