I hope you’re right! Honestly i might just be old and jaded lol. I’ve been into this ship for ten years and it’s just been handled so horribly that i’ve come to expect the worst. But i really really want them to get it right this time. I love this version of harley. Ivy is a bit odd sometimes, i don’t really understand her this episode. I hope they spend more time exploring her emotions.

Damn, that’s a lot of investment! I’d be wary too, hell, I’m wary now. If you hadn’t brought it up, I wouldn’t even have thought that’s where they were going, but I guess there’s always a possibility. Some people might think it’s “more” progressive or just flat out more interesting/edgy/surprising, which, can’t rule out that these writers might want to go there. But–and I may look dumb in a few weeks–it seems odd to play it this way if the end goal is, wait, I can be with both people, like THAT’s the big realization here, you know?

Except for her inexplicable interest in Kite guy, I always see where Ivy’s coming from but in today’s ep I do agree, I expected a bit more introspection from her. But I can also see it as the show not wanting to write her and Harley with the same storyline and approach through this and if she actually stops and thinks about it, either the angst they’re having fun drawing out with Kite douche stops or they’ll make her look a lot worse cheating when she could just put a stop to it.

OMGGGG!!! Harley and Ivy!!!! I was SO EXCITED when I found the show and then I started it and it was all joker-centric ivy seemed just a friend and I became meh about it and left it to the side as sumn I’ll watch when I’m bored but!!!!! Ivy and Harley!! The way every Harley story should be lmao imma continue now

Full disclosure, I didn’t want to watch it at all at first, I’d dismissed it as an adult cartoon deliberately trying to be as nerdbro edgelord as possible. But my friend watched it and loved it and was like, no, it’s not like that, well, it is violent and crass and that takes getting some used to, but it’s oddly hopeful in its messaging. And she LOVES Ivy and really shipped them and the writers basically admitted they were going there so I thought I’d give it a try.

The first season does have a lot of the Joker but in the sense that he’s awful and Harley should stay away from him, which, I’m fine with that. And like, I’ve shipped friends with less subtext than Harley and Ivy, and I don’t mind a slow build at all, I prefer it, if anything. They are the center of the show, no doubt. So even with freaking Kite guy, I’ve been pretty excited about this once I started catching up and now it’s finally here.