“The problem isn’t that the movie isn’t clear enough about the point or that people missed it, it’s that they think she brought this on herself.” wow you really hit the nail on the head. because it’s not like harper was closeted in every aspect of her life but this situation back home is a product of years of toxic expectations and homophobic comments from her parents that she is trying to break out of. but it’s fucking HARD to grapple with the idea of your parents choosing to stop loving you.

Yes, truly! I think there’s such a specific set of circumstances that goes into creating someone like Harper, someone who’s not just closeted but also extremely aware of the image her parents want to project and expect from her, to a degree that clearly hurts them all, AND that she wants to stay within that. Is it just love, is it a dependency, is it many things at once…

I’ve seen people who were simply like, her family sucks, she should just be rid of them. As you said, really confronting and coming to terms with the fact that their love for you isn’t unconditional, that this might be the thing that breaks your relationship, even as you still love them, it’s a really difficult thing and different for everyone. And obviously a lot of people do leave (or get kicked out), we have a whole found family concept specific to us because of that, and maybe that goes into it as well, as in, why is she trying so hard to stay? It’s almost a betrayal of sorts?

Taking that back to closeted people in general, I guess to some it feels a choice? Away from the community?  I’ve seen people say Harper’s choosing access to power (???) by staying closeted, I’ve seen people call her straight, I’ve seen people completely accept that the Caldwells are abusive as a reason they don’t want them around Abby and not caring at all about the three daughters actually raised in that environment. And a lot more. While I don’t like it, at least I can better understand where a lot of the response is coming from.

I already watched I hate New Years and kinda love it. Is not the great movie but is funny and nice. I feel that I need to see a movie like that. I recommend it

Aw, nice! I actually had a hard time finding it legally but eventually did and then found a version super late on the night of Thursday/Friday and watched a bit and saw the friend already had feelings? I wanted a mutual realization in the middle… But I’m good, I’m good, one pining and the other realizing’s still good. Still have to watch it fully, though.

And I think same anon?:

The I hate New Years plot also has the I lost the will to live until I found the right person plot that I love

Not sure how I feel about THAT? I mean, I guess in a romcom way where it’s just exaggerated for plot?

Hey I was wondering if you had heard about the show The Wilds?? I recently saw the trailer and some clips on twitter and it looks to have promising wlw teenage representation but haven’t heard anyone else talk about it!! It comes out Dec 11th on Prime if anyone is interested

I have! And yes, I was already excited about it from the concept, you expect there HAS to be f/f from a premise like this, and then the trailer straight up had a kiss, and then the one clip I saw definitely means it’ll be coming up in the plot. I’m definitely looking forward to it!

You know how sometimes you watch a movie or tv show and get a sudden reality check that, oh yeah, this ship isn’t actually canon? I watched Dark Fate again recently and every time I do I just get MORE confused about how something if it wasn’t supposed to be romantic?!?

Ugh, right?? It’s such a story built to be a romance, it truly is! Like, it’s how the whole arc worked best, it’s just what you naturally expect it to be and the impression you take away from it, these two standing against time because of love, and like, this isn’t freaking Dark, we’re not reading maternal vibes into it?? There’s loyalty and devotion but not motherhood? And especially because of the Kyle/Sarah parallels, we see it as a romance. It’s just meant to be, like, if homophobia weren’t a thing, it WOULD be. That’s all there is to it.