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I started watching the full show and honestly! the tension between Lucia and Eva! is wild! ??? so distracting hah

Yes! And this isn’t even a case where we’ll ship literally any two women in a frame. They took these two women of a similar age and power and gave them a specific dynamic around a person.

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But then reinforced the strength of that particular dynamic even outside of that person.

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And then took that person away. So we ended up getting so many scenes where these two women, played by really talented, gorgeous actresses, just kept on sparking off each other.

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And it’s such a specific kind of back and forth, where the plot relies on their enmity and feeds on it. The moment they see or even hear each other, you can feel the hackles going up. The energy in the room changes.

I will say, though, that I wish they’d made up before the end. If there’s a season 2, I can’t see what it would be if not about Lucia’s transmigration, and then while she and Leon will be a major thing, her making up with Eva would be the natural step for both.

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So Michel brown said in his ig live that theres no s2 ? so maybe maca getting all excited is for juliantina spinoff?

I guess so, I’ve seen Angelique say no too, but that’s for more obvious reasons, lol. Bye, Lucia. ;_;

And another anon:

let this sink in Lucia died without knowing about Val and Juls. goodnight

…aw, man, that’s true. Tsk. I really wish they’d restructured some of the last weeks. I know certain characters had to be kept apart for plot reasons, e.g., when Juls was kidnapped Val and Eva didn’t meet so Val couldn’t say, Alacran has Juls, and Val often needed to be in a place where she had no support so her despair and resulting strength would be clearer, but dammit, there really could have been a time and place for them to talk and for Lucia to find out and offer some quiet support.

And another anon:

So Lucía really came and went huh?

🙁 Not really pleased Lucia died, Eva went to jail, while Chino is walking around free AND happy. I’m happy Mateo survived, at least! But I don’t really get the purpose of “this character did bad so they must pay” when it’s not applied equally. How has Chino paid? And for the mistakes he’s made, including his terrible parenting of Eva, Leon’s fine too? 

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I’ve been thinking about Eva and how she hates all of her family’s significant others that are lower class and I wonder if the girlfriend Eva had in college was also lower class and somebody told Eva they shouldn’t be together because of that and that’s why Eva is so bitter towards lucia/renata/juls. Or maybe the girlfriend was really just trying to get Eva’s money so she is still holding a grudge and can’t trust anyone

Hmm, definitely a chance of that. Personally, I think she took all the wrong lessons from Leon banging on about the family and reputation but there is certainly some extreme resentment. Though as @dealanexmachina pointed out, her instincts regarding Lucia are actually correct. If she’s just transferring those same feelings to Renata and Juls AND there was something in the past, it’d make even more sense.

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Would you mind giving us a quick break-down of where all the storylines are at going into the finale? Why are people saying Lucia might die? :(

Okay, so all the Carvajal kids and Johny and Lucia now know Jacobo is Leon. Guille and Val are thrilled but he’s taking a tough love approach to Eva because of the trouble she’s put the company in. He wants Eva to turn herself into the police but she’s currently with Alacran who has kidnapped and is torturing Mateo. She’s also, for some reason, told Alacran all about Leon and Chino Valdes, who as you know, he has been trying to chase down the whole show for stealing from him.

Jacobo knows that Eva is with Alacran and has recruited Beltran to help get her back. Jacobo and Beltran are also at the stage of their transmigration where their butterfly tattoos are hurting and bleeding much more frequently, and for no reason now, whereas before it only happened when they were doing something bad. From what we’ve seen before, they’re soon either going to have to fully accept things and lead better lives now or their bodies are going to fully die. We still don’t know where Leon’s real body is, and Beltran/Chino is having trouble with his new family because Beltran’s wife wants the real Beltran back.

Lupe has accepted Panchito’s proposal but still isn’t really sure about it, inexplicably still thinking about Chino, which Juls is frustrated at. She goes to talk to Beltran to tell him to leave them alone, but he just yells at her about being gay and threatens Val.

Val and Juls are back at a good place, though not yet together together, Val is very eager to tell Juls about Leon being Jacobo/Chino’s body. She’s also been very affectionate with and shown her gratitude to Lucia for helping them through the time they all thought Leon was gone, she sees her as another person who loved Leon as much as she did and is now also getting another chance with him. Lucia, though, feels very guilty about it all and also worried, because Leon knows about her and Johny.

Montilla, the cop, has figured out Johny is a bad guy and goes to arrest him but Johny starts shooting at the police.

Now, spoilers and spec as to why people think Lucia might die: the actress who plays her has said that this isn’t the typical telenovela ending and people are interpreting that to mean that that means, unlike other endings where the leads get to be happy, she might die. Also, the promo for the finale seems to have her being shot. That seems such a major spoiler, so who knows if it bears out. We’ll just have to see, the show has surprised us again and again.

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I so wish I could understand Spanish and/or could see the full eps in English (let’s start a worldwide trending topic: #Netflix pick up Amar a muerte!! ;)). You wouldn’t be able to give a quick rundown on what happened between Eva/Mateo and Lucia/Leon, would you…? :-)

Netflix would be great, we’d get full proper subtitles and be able to support it officially.

Mateo confronted Eva about the affair and asked about the baby’s parentage and Eva tried to explain how it’d all started. It was just long angsty scene after scene.

Jacobo took Lucia to the theater where he’d originally proposed as Leon and then revealed it was him.

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well Panchito finally asked for a divorce he started wrong but before even jumping in bed with Lupe he talked to his wife and asked to finally get a divorce

Yeah, there is that. I know he has young kids too, but, well, like I said, if he loves another woman, what can ya do?

And another anon:

i just finished the lasted juls and val scenes and i’m confused about eva. i don’t watch the rest of the show so what happened to her? why was she breaking down so badly?

Mateo, her husband, found out that she’s been having an affair with a cartel leader, that her baby might be that cartel guy’s, and she’s been helping him launder money through the family company.

And another anon:

Does Chivis know that Val & Jules are “more than friends”? She had to have heard Val’s big fight with Eva, but I don’t recall the show addressing it. Granted my Spanish is crap, so I may have missed it.

Now that I think about it, she might not actually know. The show’s never shown her stumble on them kissing like Lupe, Lucho, Sergio, or Jacobo and she’s never been told by anybody like Panchito, Beltran, Eva, Camilo, Guille, Renata, or Barbara. So a bunch of people know, but not her. 

I wonder if they’ll show her finding out. I definitely want Lucia to find out.

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Babies changing people lives isn’t really a trope tho. It really does change everything. My cousin was an alcoholic got pregnant.. sobered up really quick. Im just saying it’s not that far fetched. But also, I doubt they would kill a pregnant woman. Plus, Eva is a sympathetic villain. (Johnny isn’t). Like we kind of root for her even tho we are mad at her. So Im hoping she does something good. She could miscarry tho w all the stress. Idk why am i thinking about this. LOL.

Damn, sorry, totally forgot this was still in my drafts.

Tropes do often have some basis in reality. The issue arises when they’re consistently presented with a certain message. In your cousin’s case, it worked out, but it doesn’t always.

Including a plot in a story is a deliberate decision and when it’s something we already see so much of in real life, like the importance of motherhood and how it changes you, then it reinforces that message. I got an ask a little while ago about cheating and how it’s glossed over in f/f ships and my thinking was that the danger is less extreme because there’s no debate about it in real life, we’re never told cheating is good or excusable and in fact, in these f/f stories, it’s portrayed as bad and causes guilt and shame. But we can’t say that about every trope.

Eva has been a bad person, no doubt, but that’s separate from her being a woman who doesn’t want a baby. And she’s emphatic and not at all ambivalent about it. She’s entitled to that, no matter how good or bad she is. Like, fine, yes, people do get pregnant accidentally, and it definitely makes for a good drama here, but she already has so much else to kickstart her “redemption”, I personally would not like for her to clean up her act because of a baby.

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so i started watching aam from the beginning but there’s just SO MANY EPISODES. can you tell me how eva and alacran met? I actually am invested in the other storylines but I don’t have enough time to watch that much television sadly.

I’m not actually sure, the first we see of them, they’re already together, it’s a bit of a surprise reveal when suddenly these two characters not only know each other but are making out. They’ve had both the affair and a business relationship going on for a while, she uses her position to shield him from the press and to help launder money through the Carvajal Group.

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I wonder if we are gonna see Eva fiding out that Val was this )( close to get killed at the hands of alacran’s men. Maybe thats how her redemption starts.

Oh, that’s a good point. I don’t think that’ll happen first, though, I think everyone else will find out about her and get mad. Including Val, since it was Alacran’s men who killed Lucho. And kidnapped Juls. And Lupita earlier. And caused the mess with the Armenta cartel that led to her kidnapping and like, five of Lucia’s.

Because for Eva to find out and start her redemption arc, she should repudiate Alacran, but he’s about to die, so where would that fit in?