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Following what the creator said in that interview, I think Beatrice/Ava is gonna be one side. Still is amazing

I’m gonna jump around a bit the remaining asks a bit because I wanted to answer this now, which you sent some days back and I assume are speaking about his answer in the VIFF interview + Q&A? Where he said Beatrice’s feelings are clear but Ava is, well, that’s the drama for next season? And tbh, I didn’t read that entirely optimistically either, it actually didn’t promise anything.

But in today’s interview with Variety, he was asked about the queerness (or lack of it) in this season and this is what he answered:

There’s definitely something there with Ava and Beatrice [Kristina Tonteri-Young] in the sense that, Beatrice openly admits she’s gay and that’s a part of her journey and part of our story. Does that define Ava? Well, that remains to be seen. I mean, we have more seasons hopefully to tell the story and that will be an ongoing journey, not something that is easily defined in one scene with one life, you know? Um, and I don’t think we want Ava defined by a singular thing any more than we want Beatrice defined by a singular idea. In regards to a queer character or whatever, we don’t want them to be defined by that. We want them to be defined by who they are and let their sexuality and let their relationships and let their journeys be included in that. We never tried to paint any character with just one defining characteristic. By defining Ava and Beatrice too quickly or too irresponsibly, we could kill it and ruin it. And I don’t want to do that either. So for now, let’s just say we are open and exploring, much like the characters are.

That seems more optimistic, tbh? Like, as much as he can’t give away the plot, he’s implying more. Of course, he could still mean nothing at all, in which case, lol, I hope whatever they do decide is handled really incredibly well, considering we’re not the ones creating polls about the ship name. 😛

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boocita I’ve been bingewatching WN on your recommendation and when ava made it through the training wall after facing her fear bea really looked at her like she was ready to break her sacred vows ?. also i thought shannon / mary was legit canon from the first ep i thought it was so weird nobody explicitly referred to it bc it seems hella obv and intentional??

I don’t know anyone by that name. =_=

My recommen–I did wh–it was no such thing! Unless you’re liking it? Then yes. 🙂

Haha, yes, after the training, that was the closest thing we got to anything canon. I mean, it IS canon one-sided at least, for now. Break her vows, lol. I’m kind of tickled at what research must be going into writing the fic for them. “Does a kiss–does another woma–does it have to be…hmm.”

Yeah, Shannon and Mary, I think all the viewers were like, uhhh, that’s clearly something, but it seems the writers weren’t intending for it. Just ended up a combination of the writing needing to sell that friendship as transformation for Mary and then Toya really leaning into the physicality We might still get some flashbacks next season that elaborate on that, now that they know people are reading them that way, and also, Mary was a lesbian in the comics, and I LOVE Beatrice, of course, who doesn’t, but I also don’t like the idea that lesbian characters are interchangeable or that they removed a Black lesbian. It’s not as if all the characters are completely new for the show, Shotgun Mary was a character in the comics. Just something I’ll be looking to, though I don’t know which way they’ll go and it won’t be a deal breaker if they don’t stick with it, I’ll just be disappointed.

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Thanks for being Warrior Nun content! And other stuff as well! I saw a post where someone wish that Ava’s internal voice over would continue (if we get more seasons) with her realizing feelings for Beatrice! Lol imagine that bathroom scene instead of JC but it’s Beatrice. And I’m with you that I don’t see the purpose of him and his crew continue for future episodes (if!) Also, I love how they steer the show that the nuns and the evil corps working together!!! And them being helpful as well!!

Ohhh, if they go there with Avatrice, I would very much like to know her thoughts. Now I’m conflicted, lol. I didn’t really love the voice over because it honestly made things too simple, instead of wondering what she was thinking and being left to interpret it ourselves, she’d just tell us in the most basic of terms, and most of the time we could have inferred it from the scenes anyway. But if she falls for Beatrice….oh, man, I’d love to hear the thought process then. 

Lol, I genuinely cannot imagine that scene with Beatrice. That is a NUN, anon! And it’s Beatrice! I’d have to see it to believe it (and yes, WN writers, that is a challenge).

You sent this before some of the recent asks about JC so tbh, I wonder now if his purpose is as the others suggest, to be some Christ like figure? I don’t know how that plays into the version of the world they have, though. I would just as soon be happy with them dropping him from the show once they realized he wasn’t really working, much like they did with the voice over.

And yes, ARQ seemed like the bad guy just because of the usual TV tropes, I perked up at Ava doing something clever and unpredictable like going straight to Jillian, it was entertaining and made sense. But continuing to go to her was a stroke of genius and a nice subversion of that trope.

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Also is very important to point out that Beatrice is the first person in the order that hugs Ava. Like at all?

True, true, like, the first person to offer her comfort at all, really. And like, I know the later eps are so good and the ones we focus on the most but the fact that even at that early stage, Ava was actually the one to initiate the hug. Even when she was waking up earlier, restrained to the bed and all she could hear was two voices arguing about what to do with the halo and thus about her, Beatrice was the one saying to, you know, not tear it out of her and let her die again.

Despite Lilith’s softening toward her, Ava will probably always be closest to Mary and Beatrice, but in different ways. With Mary, the relationship was built on tough love, I saw someone say Mary was like an older sister, and that’s super accurate. They’ll always have each other’s back but their relationship’s gonna be defined by snark and eyerolling and feigned annoyance. 

With Beatrice, Ava’s just a lot more open and vulnerable because that’s how their relationship was formed. Like, she tried to be snarky when they first met, at dinner, remember, “I’ve never been to middle school but I feel like I just lived through it”, and Beatrice just didn’t play, she flat out said the jokes weren’t helping and when Ava tried to pass it off as just her thing, Beatrice didn’t accept that and explained why people were on edge. She was a little stern but also took Ava seriously and was honest and opened up herself and that set the tone for their friendship. I still can’t get over the fact that when Beatrice snapped at her in ep 8, Ava just flat out asked why, in that hurt way, because that’s not what she had come to expect from Beatrice. Imagine! The character we saw in those first eps to actually have formed a relationship with someone to the point where she had actual trust and expectations of good treatment. Again, I’m so glad Beatrice justified that and immediately apologized.

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I just watched Warrior Nun and I really liked it. What’s funny is that Ava doesn’t even listen to what JCs saying “just keep talking pretty boy” while it seems like she would listen to every word Beatrice would say even if she’d read the whole Bible to her. I think what they’re going for here is a contrast between a nothing but sexual attraction towards JC, which Ava is mistaking for being in love and a much deeper connection with Beatrice on the other hand.

Oh, haha, yeah, I…honestly am still kind of bewildered at how they wrote the JC part of the show, and the voiceovers just made it all so much more puzzling. It seemed like this totally different juvenile show. I’m not sure they were going for that specific contrast, everything Beatrice said happened to be a lot more relevant for Ava’s life, she could hardly be tuning out. And JC was already being dismissed as lust by Mary, when they were talking about her leaving JC behind. 

But yeah, again, as with all the Avatrice elements, intentional or not, they could certainly use them in the future if they so wanted.

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Hi, it’s me the anon that ‘Ask’ about the story of Sister Melanie. Just WOW ( ^ 0 ^ ) you really created a GIF set about that. Seeing the comparison side by side like that is making me ship Ava and Beatrice more and more LOL

Hi, anon! It was a really great observation, I’m so happy you thought of it! And I know, I’m trying to not let myself sink too deeply into that, but it’s simply canon fact that without even knowing the halo would kick in, when Ava saw Beatrice under threat from a GUN, she RAN TOWARD IT with no intention but to interfere somehow even if that meant putting herself in harm’s way.

It was in fact the halo that surprised her (and all of them) and saved her from jumping straight into the path of the bullets. She’s hardly at the stage of (near) invincibility where she’s going to instinctively seek out that kind of damage, even if the halo HAD been able to absorb that kind of damage, she’s not nearly at that point yet, this was just her. 

And the person she did that for is Beatrice. Sure, maybe it’d have been for anyone. But it wasn’t.