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I gotta be honest and say I fucking loved every minute pre-sergio plot and was disappointed by everything post-sergio, but overall Juliantina is almost incomparable and in its own league as a whole, even if I think that mostly applies to the part I loved. I think the ending was rushed and lacked a lot of resolution after the buildup, but I’m happy they survived AND were together. I do think they could’ve added more romance Bc i can’t even remember if juliantina had a kiss post-sergio but eh

Yeah, true, everything was rushed at the end. Except for like, Guille/Renata, who stayed stalled on the same level for the last half of the whole series. When you think about Lucia/Leon, they were split up for so long, then he revealed who he was at the theater and they didn’t share any scenes again until the very end of the penultimate ep. And then while they had their true talky reunion today, she ended up dying. We had our real reunion the other day, and then today was just a last minute kind of bonus conflict to drive the drama.

Personally, I totally did not mind the post-Sergio eps at all. They focused so much on the feelings between them, even with them not together. Val working so hard to rescue Juls, then how quickly after their space talk she caved and tried to chase her down. 

I absolutely think, on a technical level, they needed some more scenes to round off things, considering their freaking dads switched bodies and what Barbara knew and that Death was following Val around, but I’m so much more lenient on things when it’s not because of malicious or thoughtless intent. They did so well by us overall, our girls being shuffled a bit to the side in the finale because they weren’t in the middle of the dying or prison drama isn’t the same disappointment it would be in different circumstances.

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What’s even more important to me is how when they were watching the interview with Val, Lupe was so sure that Val would say Juli’s name because Lupe already knew in her heart that Val really was so serious about her daughter and her future daughter in law wasn’t gonna stop at anything!

Yeah! Like, these shows are made up of tons of little setups and payoffs. And Lupe’s disapproval was one of the biggest arcs for them and now we’re getting repeated emphasis of her being more and more okay with them. She was so freaking happy, lol, like she was watching some entertainment show. Ah, watching some richass girl tell the whole country she’s in love with her daughter, that is truly a the rich/poor trope come to life.

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“something after the TV interview and before the send off scene with Guille and Renata, how was Juls back with Val and they just…that’s it?” … dude, if your girl goes on national tv, tells them she loves you with full name drop …. like, it aint THAT hard to get you man. i mean, i know I myself would be EASY after it

Lol, Juls wanted to get back with Val already. But they set up that conflict, so why not resolve it onscreen? But I think they actually think they did, as you said, it’s kind of a no-brainer that they’d be back together if Val’s fears of a public outing were addressed.

A full name drop. I love that she ADDED the last name after a pause.

Just to make sure that no other Juliana would think she meant them. And to let everyone else know Juliana Valdes was taken. I laughed and laughed.

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i’m really leaning towards the spinoff coming… i mean they set it up that a lot are open ended… or i could simply hopeful since most jv scenes seems lacking

Heh, I wouldn’t take the lack of scenes to mean anything regarding that. There really did seem at least one scene missing, something after the TV interview and before the send off scene with Guille and Renata, how was Juls back with Val and they just…that’s it? But I could see that it was simply cut for time OR they just assumed people would understand and just blew on ahead. 

I do think that for good or bad, they focused on that public coming out as the big conflict for them this finale and they delivered on that!. So unnecessary but it was cute. Still, yeah, one little scene after couldn’t have hurt. Oh, and didn’t love other couples getting their kisses or more, especially Guille and Renata kissing literally in front of them like some Westallen wedding invasion, but I mean, my minor thwarted hopes for this ep don’t really affect my feelings for the show or ship or experience overall, which are overwhelmingly positive. Can we really say that this show bowed to homophobia or considered them less than? I can’t.

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For the anon worried about there being drama when V and J see each other… Judging by the spoiler pictures, val is the one going to J’s home, Lupe and Panchito are there and he’s wearing an apron like he’s cooking dinner or something so I’m not expecting drama. At least not in that scene, later scenes are a whole other thing though lol

And another anon:

I think Val might be coming over to Juliana’s. There’s a bts pic of Maca with someone from the production team and you can see the painting that’s on the living room above the sofa behind them

Oh, that’s right, so…it’d be great if all of them were just kept out of the Leon/Chino bullshit for the whole finale, lol. Shootouts as Eva and Mateo are saved, then shootouts between Johny and the rest, meanwhile the Valdes women and their partners just having pancakes or something.

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Yes to what you said about Juliantina being dragged into the mess. After all, Juliana is coming over because Val needs to see her, they’re going to be at that house, the center of all drama!

Ohhh, hmm, yeah. Well, when she gets there, Jacobo might still be at Alacran’s. I can’t believe they ended the last episode with Johny in the middle of a shootout with the police and Jacobo about to storm the cartel and then the promo is just them both casually back at the Carvajal house.