Did you just … casually throw batwoman au for Valentina Carvajal like nbd? If that happens i need Juliana to be Catwoman cause reasons.
You could see it in recent Val, juuuust a bit? She’s slowly having to change in reaction to how hard the world is. Or, rather, she’s finding how already strong and brave she can be.
I dunno about Juls as Catwoman, wouldn’t she be a more Questi–ohhh, the foeyay flirting. I get ya.
I’m sad as the next juliantina, but honestly not disappointed in juls at all. if i were in the same position, thinking i was bringing turmoil, shame, bullying, literal bodily danger to my loved one’s life, i think I’d 99% make the same decision… i relate to juls bc she’s pragmatic lol. also val herself said “I’d rather you were safe and far away, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t hurt me” so it’s interesting those words are applying to juls now
Ooooh, that’s a great connection, anon. And later that same day when Juls brought up not being there, Val was like, nooo, I’d die. It is that hard to make that decision, that sacrifice.
I always thought val would be the one to break the pact since she’s always so unapologetic in going after what she wants and she has such a sheltered life until recently. This show brings so many surprises
I thought so too. She was under so much pressure, wasn’t answering the phone calls.
But I think it kind of couldn’t be her? The romance they’re selling is so epic and so star-crossed, her caving because of pressure just wouldn’t work. Of course that would be understandable in real life but in this story, it would come across as her not loving Juls enough. Instead, it broke because Juls loves her too much.
I’m really sad that juls broke the pact… it’s like there are cracks in the the foundation of trust and reliability from here on
Circumstances and context matter too. If Juls is able to explain her reasoning and why she’s changed her mind, I don’t know why Val wouldn’t understand or accept it? I think most of us, and Val especially, find it very easy to believe the best of the people we love.
looking at your asks ‘post-breakup’ scene, it’s nice to see the folks here being reasonable about why juls reacted the way that she did. i feel like most people, from what i’ve noticed on twitter, are so quick to anger and blame juls for her decision and are so focused on val’s perspective since the past few episodes were mainly about her outing and the repercussions of it that they completely forget to consider from juls’ point of view and how might these events effect her.
I wanted to answer this specifically after the previous ask, lol. They arrived almost together (that one first) and I just sat there for a bit, looking at them in bemusement.
“Reasonable” is maybe not the word I’d go for, I don’t want to apply that connotation either way, but yeah, I do support a more…balanced view?
Maybe you have a point that the show’s been showing Val suffering very obvious bullying and already going two rounds with her sister and that affects how some viewers relate to them. This goes back to the other ask about praise for their acting, where what Val gets is more clearly spelled out compared to the more subtler quieter moments for Juls.
Because I think we’ve seen enough of Juls’s side of things too, leaving that worried voicemail, that scene with Lupe in bed that I’d even commented on for being noteworthy in its inclusion. It wasn’t a loud, dramatic scene, it was just very slowly and softly painful. Juls has been suffering throughout this. She doesn’t suggest a break for the fun of it, it’s constantly in the back of her mind. When the cop warned her, twice. When Lucho insulted her at school when Juls didn’t even want to go. When Val missed her classes for her. When Silvina warned her. When Silvina woke them up, when they had to avoid Eva, when Lucho attacked them, when Val wouldn’t accept her calls, when her mom told her they were from different worlds, when Eva freaking showed up at their house, when she wasn’t even allowed in the car, and when Val showed her the bullying messages on her phone. It was all building, we saw it building.
This…this isn’t a criticism-free zone. I don’t think everything both of them do is perfect. I just don’t see the point of shipping characters if you don’t give both of them the benefit of sympathy and understanding.
Juls was harsh to Val. Didn’t think about Vals feelings. Only thinking about herself and how her mom was going to react. I am dissapointed
That is not at all how I read it. She was thinking about Val more than anything else.
Nothing’s changed regarding her mother, she could just continue to not tell her. There’s no reason to break up because of that. Juls only brought it up as a reason Val could accept, since “I’m doing it for you” would never fly.
The whole framing, of the previous episodes and this one and this specific conversation, are making it much more about Juls’s issues with her place in Val’s life and the disruption she’s causing to it than anything else.
To put it simply, everyone around her, everyone who has any kind of remotely positive interest in Val or her, has said they won’t last, that she’s bringing trouble to Val. She just had Val’s sister show up and say she’s destroying Val’s life and then found out she couldn’t even get in the car. That. Would. Be. Mortifying. Would she want Val to go through that? For her? Tbh, I don’t think she’s actually correct in making this decision because it’s not up to her to make, it’s Val’s. But she thinks she’s not worth it. That’s the biggest tragedy here and the takeaway. That the people around them have put them in this position.
you know what? this is because val didn’t wear the hot af leather jacket to meet with juls. if she had, juls would not have been able to go through with it ? jkjk really tho i’m fucking sobbing rn
Aw, buddy. But like…Val looked EVEN GAYER without it??
