Piggy backing off that anon talking about the first kiss and then the awkward looking at each other cut, I’ve always been so confused by the Valle house scenes after Lucho/Sergio catch them. How do they go from the couch to Val drinking on the floor? Then, how on earth do they go from forming a pact and looking somewhat happy again to Val staring out a window mad and upset and drinking again?

Ah, that first anon brought up the kiss in reply to my tags on a post about them in Valle precisely BECAUSE I was like, how did this even come about?

I can understand the first moment, draw a clear connection between Val being worried, reassured by Juls on the sofa but eventually standing up and being like, I need a drink and then ending up where we see them next. That’s a a reasonable enough jump. But then we’re supposed to believe she does literally the same exact thing after being the one to reassure Juls? Why didn’t she just stay drinking seated where we first saw her? And how did her mood go down again so quickly? 

It’s not that I find it an impossibility, it’s just that it was an important part of the story and character and relationship we missed.

And another anon:

thank you for giffing angry val at valle for me. i know it isn’t the most fun of moments but overall i don’t think val gets that angry very often so it stood out to me. plus, that outfit was a+.

It was no problem! Hmm, when I think on it, my reluctance wasn’t so much that it was an uncomfortable moment, it’s because, like I said above, I just didn’t really connect with it in the same way I did other angry Val moments, like in the second kitchen scene or talking to Juls about Sergio or after the breakup when she was still a little miffed. 

It’s not that I can’t stand Val being angry at Juls, obviously I don’t love it, but I kind of like seeing that side of her and it’s not about her being right and Juls being wrong, the best writing is when both sides are understandable and justified, but that one bit did not particularly feel earned to me from the show. I got what they were going for, they actually handled the resolution of it quite well, it being clear it was far more about Val’s fears of being outed than how she felt about Juls, but they could have written more in. 

As always, the answer to every issue I’ve had with Juliantina is: more screentime! 😛

It’s okay, I do hear it too sometimes, but I wonder if it’s just wishful thinking, I don’t know :P The first time I watched it, I heard only “perdon”, but it is definitely open for discussion

For what it’s worth, anyone who’s commented on it that I’ve seen has said they hear the mi amor first up. But as much as I try to LaurelYanny myself into trying to hear the perdon at first, the first couple of times always seem like mi amor. 

Is it wishful thinking? Even perdon is so sweet in this context, she was the one who was attacked but after she takes like a split second to collect herself (and then jumping to lock the door–a frighteningly real little detail), she’s just thinking of Juls? That’s pretty great either way.

Yeah, about last night’s scene, I’m thinking about translating that to just “I’m sorry” said again and again by Val, because, even if I would’ve liked that she had said “mi amor” (and I know that’s how most people want it to be translated) I think she didn’t, I think I hear her saying “perdon” repeatedly. But I’m not totally convinced yet haha

I did get an ask about that and to my super untrained ear it does sound like she says it! On the one hand, I’m not sure if she’d say that in those particular circumstances but on the other hand, is there anything swoonworthy Valentina Carvajal hasn’t said yet? And she is super focused on Juliana’s safety, her first thought when she sees Lucho is Juls and then she literally tries to block Juls from him (who is just as eager to get at Lucho to hopefully claw his face off, lol) and then she apologized to Juls after it all. So. 

Headphones on, gun to my head…I think she says mi amor at first, and then possibly perdon after. I dunno, I dunno. Go with your gut! Don’t play to the masses!

One thing I noticed in that elevator scene is that juls was so ready to fight the guy when he made that one comment I forget what he said exactly and val basically had to hold her back lol. She’s definitely fiesty, which I guess with everything she’s gone through makes sense. I want to see more of that juls.

She got mad when he pretended to be sympathetic about her mom’s “death” and asked how it happened, since she knew he was responsible. She’s so protective of her mom. Which, given she’s literally the only person Juls has, and perhaps has ever had, yeah, as you said, it makes sense. 

This thing with Val must be blowing her mind, especially who and what Val is. Oh, I did actually love her jumping in yesterday when Lucho attacked and then shouting at him to leave.

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Loved that get outta here gesture.

But I dunno how much of confident/feisty Juls we’ll see again anytime soon. That move with Val re: the drinking kinda backfired. That’s probably the thing I hate most about the fight, what it’s going to do to Juls’s insecurities. Like yeah, she started off unsure but twice now, she’s said, hey, maybe we should take a break, and both times Val has very awesomely been like no way, this is the best thing in my life. But that last time, when bringing up the drinking and then throwing out wanting to leave…when has Val ever agreed about letting Juls go easily? Playfully and sometimes quite seriously, she constantly asks for Juls to stay, including that very morning. So I feel Juls is going to be on the back foot a bit now. 😡