Hi, have you heard of Druck? It’s the German version of Skam and the lead of the 6th season is a lesbian. No pressure to watch nor to gif or anything, I just thought I’d let you know

I had heard about it insomuch as a non-anon told me a few hours ago, heh. I mean, I’m very vaguely aware of the Skams but this wasn’t on my radar, no. I will keep an eye on it, for sure, but so far the Skams and I have not exactly gotten along like a house afire. Thanks for the extremely polite heads up!

I dont really think the boys will be very important to the plot. I feel like they are simply the comparison group that suposed to prove that in the exact same situation boys will act out while girls will raise up to the challenge and show how much more equiped they are to handle hard situations. So i think maybe they may show a few scenes with them just to compare but i dont count on much more. Btw at this point i feel like they are treating the girls as a failed experiment

Oh, hmm, a failed experiment…well, heh. I dunno, I feel like what they wanted to prove…but did they get enough data. Actually, until the control group finishes, they can’t really verify anything.

The thing about the boys is that I do absolutely think they can deliver a group of relatable, likable boys with their own issues, some similar, some diametrically opposite (e.g., how the patriarchy handles prom), but the issue with that is they’re always going to be considered replacements for the girls. It won’t be an entirely new show with this setting, which, that’s it’s own thing, but at least you’d know what you’re getting into with that, in this case it’ll be a deliberate choice to shift focus and priority away from the girls on this female-centric show. 

Especially because I don’t think the boys will fail, I think the point of the show is that, maybe they’ll get into more physical fights, but overall they’ll ultimately end up similarly. So…I dunno, will we start on the boys and then slowly integrate what’s going on with the girls, have them be rescued and them meeting? Once the groups mix, that changes the dynamic of the show completely.

I binged The Wilds because of your posts and now I’m empty, that ending was a set-up for a second season and it’s kind of a bummer we may have to wait a whole year or expect for it to be cancelled but, what were your thoughts on the series? Who was your favorite character? What was your favorite scene? I don’t know, I always look forward to whatever you have to say!

Yeah, gonna have to wait for a while…but I wonder if it helps that it was shot in NZ, which is honestly such a covid haven at the moment (knock on wood)? Maybe they still have to do the same tests and safety measures as other sets, I don’t know. But I’d also think being so outdoors for much of the story can only help. Too bad a bunch of the rest of the story is now in small dungeon-like rooms. 😡

I…thought it was a pretty engrossing watch, if you could get past some stuff (the YA vibes, how dark and traumatic some of the stories were). You know I’m always about character and this delivered that in spades

Favorite character? Martha’s mom. Not even joking, heh, she just radiated so much love for her daughter and compassion in general. But obviously you mean favorite island girl…I have such a hard time picking, I like different things about everyone, it’s so hard to pick just one and makes me feel disloyal, but I in this case, overall, I would say Fatin just brought me so much joy in general. But then I’m like, well, Dot, and then I can’t leave out Martha, and then it just continues from one to the next, like, I haven’t mentioned Toni or Shelby yet but of course I liked them too! I liked everyone, except I’m not sure I’ve entirely forgiven [the second mole]. It is hard to forgive someone who saw EVERYTHING they suffered, day in and day out, the food-poisoning, Fatin seemingly missing, people just starving and traumatized even without all that, and didn’t just end it.

And thank you! Thanks for letting me talk about it. 🙂

The wilds was well wild haha but I really liked it! Hope it gets a season 2 and still focus on all the girls, cuz all of them are great. The way you get attached to every single girls some more than the others (Fatin FTW!) but you are in the end rooting for all of them.Also loved the buildup between Shelby and Toni! Wish we could have seen more… I’m so so hoping for a S2!

Lol, it was wild. And definitely, we spent all this time on getting to know these girls, I don’t want a perspective shift at all! And truly, the way you get to learn and care about all of them even with their very different backgrounds and stories and ways of handling things, nobody being 100% perfect or 100% awful, you truly did want to root for them all. So many different friendships and dynamics, even aside from the two sisters, the two best friends, and then the two lovahs. 😛

I am SUPER curious about what happened from that last kiss to the interviews… And there’s so much plot left, how’re they going to escape, how’re they going to expose them, what will their families do, etc. I do hope Toni/Shelby are still a thing in s2, as well. 😮

Do you know if anyone has Conspiracy Whiteboarded out exactly what moment that beside manner photo was from? We know the bit of Dani asking about who will bury Diego and her dad was a reshoot, but I *think* I see a potato chip bag in the background?

Oh, hmm, this one?

I don’t see any potato chips, that’s a phone, isn’t it? One of those old landline ones? I think it might have been before Sarah returned with the ice? So like this moment of peace between just her and Grace without terminators or pharmacists or Sarah or even Grace’s own very focused active energy when she’s awake. Once the ice had melted and Grace had cooled down, Dani was already locked out.

oooooofff dani/grace had such big queen/knight vibes and god what a waste,, mackenzie davis looking like That, Time Travel Romance, all the Love and Devotion and Protection, who are the gays behind the scenes who did this and why did the straights waste it??

Haha, I knowwww. God, I’m really upset about what it could have been, when so many ingredients for true greatness were already there. It absolutely was a queen/knight dynamic, like, literally it was soldier/general but imbued with a whole lot of extra emotion on both sides that just…weren’t maternal! At all??? 

But really, like…these movies are about the resilience of humans, right, grounding that love and concern for everyone in the love between individuals specifically. Kyle and Sarah and the John they both carried in their minds, a commander and an unborn son, then John and Sarah and the 101 even, so like, you need that love in TDF too. And faux-parental bonds are difficult to create! Especially over the length of a few days. T2 used the whole movie to build it up with a literal child, lonely and with no father at all and who had conflicted feelings about his seemingly unreliable mother, now able to trust entirely in this “adult”.

Was TDF trying to tell us that when the end of the movie happened, that the younger person, Dani, had MATERNAL feelings for Grace? That’s what we were supposed to buy to make it more emotionally effective? No! In what world would that work? And surely not the reverse, that this adult–a new adult, but an adult to be sure, with a nice father two days ago was like, Grace is my mom? Please. So then, at most, Dani is grieving for Grace as her protector, someone she realizes she sent back and who selflessly died for her. Nice, but hardly comparable to what they did in the first two.

Apparently the excuse is that they didn’t want the audience to guess that Grace knew Dani before? But like…why the hell not? Why on earth would they actually want to keep that a surprise, how did it add anything at all to the movie? Oh, you thought this was just an ordinary soldier, but it was…a soldier she knew. Wowww. Because nobody’s buying “oh, it was actually her daughter”, neither acted like that at any other point in the movie, including after, lmao. *sigh*

Instead, they could have leaned into it and had these two women, falling in love in different timelines and loops again and again, both fighting to shift time and history the smallest bit a time to keep the other safe. They coulda done that!!! They could have made the end that much stronger, that it was Dani’s love Grace dying, and gone to the next step from T1 and T2 in the way that this was BOTH of them shifting time again and again, knowing the results and working to get to an apocalypse-free timeline. It would have made for a much tighter, more focused movie that justified returning to the franchise after all these years.

i felt like i was the only one watching big sky!!! the second cassie and jenny started arguing i was like dump the dude and makeout already!!!! the show is hard to take 70% of the time(when the cop said some women have outward facing ‘thingamagoos’ lol)but im enjoying it for what it is. i don’t think they’ll go there but i really hope they do

Haha, right, pull a Korrasami, please, but uh, I guess certain things were taken care of already. It IS tough to watch at times and just kind of…sillier than I think it was maybe written to be, but mostly I’m just scared for the three girls in the box and THEN I hope these two hook up. I also don’t think they’ll go there but they miiight. 

I actually enjoyed Shelby + Toni, especially the final scene they had together because it was so soft.You felt a huge amount of growth when they reached that the moment because Toni was being so calm about everything because for once she was being the optimistic one out of the two of them. I’m interested to see what happens with them if further seasons are commissioned (let’s be honest, with how it ended you’re gonna need more than more season to unpack all of that!). We know they both survive the island (although that ending ?). So presumably there will some sort of written progress for their relationship (something implied when they thought Shelby wanted to see Toni). I will say, I’m not a big fan of the fact that there is a boy island. I get the idea behind it as being something that will fail, aka a Lord of The Flies type presentation. But I just feel at that point there will be too many characters that some will then get lost (whether killed off or screen time reduced).

Yeah, as I’ve always said, even the scenes that aren’t Romantic are still part of the ship and dynamic, and they had a lot of scenes even before…you know.

And you know, I’m not sure if Toni was entirely optimistic so much as fatalistic, but I guess it’s the same in those circumstances. I really do want to see what happened between that and the interviews, including the whole rescue?? But Shelby changed quite a bit, so what else happened? And where’s Martha?

There’s definitely lots of content for another season, even without the boy island. Which! I don’t think it will fail, I think the point of the show is that girls/women aren’t different or Better, excepting socialization. But yes, I don’t really want to see that side of things, it can be a plot point out there but I don’t want the characters integrated like this set. As you said, that would be too many in all and too many new dynamics. I watched for these girls and now I’m invested in them, as much as I’m sure there will be interesting plots for random boys, I don’t really care that much, heh.