Spoiler alert if you’re not caught up on in the dark: not sure if you’re still watching it, but man, I’m annoyed with the newest ep. I know the focus was never on Jess/Vanessa, but I’m irritated that they went the cheating route with them and that Jess is embroiled in lying to the cops now. I really liked Jess & u know the lying will come back to bite her in the ass. And Jess/Vanessa are doomed Bc she cheated ugh there are zero f/f ships left again, even in the periphery. Need new f/f material.

Anon! I actually just finished watching it a little while ago and same! The lying to the cops part, I’m okay with that personally, that is just what the show is, people are going to get into and out of messes, and it gives her a plot and a reason to have her own screentime, but to Vanessa…and the whole “I could lie to the cops and Vanessa but not to you”, that diminishes her own relationship so much. You don’t have to prop up the main character THAT much, she doesn’t even need it! It’s a great friendship on its own. 

Maybe she shouldn’t be with Vanessa, if she can cheat on her and lie to her. I like my ships but I like shipping my ships. I really do like Vanessa but if Jess isn’t that into her, then don’t keep her around as some poor fool or to watch this slowly become a toxic mess. But really, my issue isn’t with the fact that Jess doesn’t seem to treat Vanessa as well as she should, it’s that the show uses them for convenience. And I really did not like how they threw around “actual/real lesbian”. The show’s reinforcing Jess’s incorrect attitude of putting her insecurities on Vanessa. First they make Vanessa dismiss Jess’s concerns so they can argue and then they act like that’s because she’s bi??? As if real lesbia–I’m just tired of even discussing this. It was lazy and dumb writing and I think the show could have done better.

Last TV season my fave 3 wlw ships were Kate/Anya, Emma/Cruz and Charlotte/Lady Fitz. I’m 0/2 now. If anything bad happens to C/LF I’m sorry, I’m cursed. BTW I was sad Anya was never mentioned again and the show treated it like it never happened. But it got canceled before Kate and Leonard happened and we all know it was going to happen so I’m okay with Kate getting a good ending for herself. But I’m pissed the way Vida retconned Cruz. The disrespect. I can’t even watch/support the show now.

Oof, buddy. And a ship on Harlots! You do like to live dangerously. Actually, Liv Tyler returning at all was so unexpected, I don’t know if you’re cursed so much as maaaaybe not picking the most solid of ships, heh.

It was pretty weird how FtP just dropped any mention of Anya as if she never existed, but they do seem to do that with personal relationships, dropping them and picking them up as suits the plot. They did that for pretty much everyone except Jill and Roger. Even Kate/Leonard only got some charged exchanges at the start and then that was it, so if you don’t like it in the one, then I guess you have cause to be grateful about it in the other? Heh.

Re: Cruz, that one, I’ll give you, there was no reason to think her role would be shortened. If anything, the opposite. Like you, I would say, I’m a bit of a romantic and get attached to couples. But Vida is not really that kind of show. I did hear about how Cruz was written this season and that was disappointing but overall, it’s meant to be more a full on drama about these very underserved issues and not something to pin shipping hopes on. Which, we ourselves get so little so it still feels unfair, like, how few shows at all stick with the same f/f couple over multiple seasons, but we can’t hold one show responsible for the whole industry’s failure. It’s still got a lot of good things going for it, so while you certainly don’t have to watch it, I wouldn’t write it off for everyone.

Please excuse me if thought you were the one who thought Juls and vale were straight. Must have been someone else. Their gaydar must be working wrong as I started (almost ) from the beginning aswell, and let me tell you: nothing they did was straight. I get cultural context, but my gaydar is finely tuned and those girls were gay for each other from the start :)

No worries, buddy. I have no actual gaydar so I just go with the story. Or assuming/hoping everyone is not straight, that works too. 😛

Thanks for the Priory of the Orange Tree rec. I just finished it and really enjoyed it! It was so good! If you have any similar recs, I’d love to hear them.

I’m glad you liked it! Welcome to the club. Because, uh, heh, we’re all stuck trying to find something that good and f/f that sucks us in and I don’t really think there’s anything similar. Personally, I went into A Memory Called Empire, but that’s scifi and the romance isn’t as epic. Anything I’ve read or liked recently is in my books tag, you can get an idea of what I’ve been reading or looking into from there.

That was a great Juliantina post! I was following you from December last year, and I remember you commented that you thought Juliana and Valentina were straight? It’s there in your history, but there’s so much stuff (thank you, btw) that i can’t link it. Comments?

Thanks! 

I said that? I don’t remember saying that… In what context, that I thought they were acted like straight girls? I definitely don’t remember saying that, or do you mean I thought they were straight characters at first? Considering I started watching for them, I don’t think I said that either…? Are you sure it was me?

I want to know how Isabelle is going to get into Charlotte’s good graces because she screwed her over last season.

Yes, I want to see it tooooo, I want to see it actually on screen and preferably taking like, half the season. As long as that’s their arc, I don’t have to worry about even more nefarious things happening. But really, under that shell Charlotte’s super nice and forgiving so if Isabella even just said the truth, I did it to keep my daughter safe, Charlotte and her love for family would probably like, fair enough. 

But let’s see how they do it so it’ll be fun for TV. Maybe they’ll be forced to make an alliance, so it’ll be an uneasy prickly fake friendship and then will thaw? I just hope it won’t have happened off screen between seasons.

This legitimately felt evil because twitter is a safe space for so many people. It’s a place they are allowed to be gay and can communicate with other gay people. To cut that off because of an MTV poll is just demonic flavored

To give them the benefit of the doubt, maybe it was just a few people, and maybe they only thought of it as a clever ploy in a poll war, not fully realizing the repercussions of people losing their accounts. Maybe. It is crossing a line and so unnecessary. Over a damn poll.