Starting to think Happiest Season was needed WAY more than I realized, because apparently a lot of folks need to think about why being closeted *is* so agonizing a lot more. The whole *point of the movie* is that this behavior isn’t something natural for Harper, it’s not something she wants to do or would dream of doing under other circumstances – it’s what the situation is doing to her. It’s not a subtextual point! It’s right there! Closeting means doing stuff you hate yourself for!

Heh, well, they may need another movie then, lol, this one didn’t really seem to do the trick too well. I thought the effect of it was clear, that everything she was doing was tied into it, but…well. Which, that’s kind of interesting, the response to the other closeted characters. I’ll just use this next ask for that.

And another anon:

I don’t see the difference between Harper and April. So I think the issue people see with Harper is more shipping than the story

You know, I was thinking about this earlier and actually took part of my answer out of another reply to put in this one. Despite some grumblings about April, and of course taking away just how many more people seemed to be aware of and watched HS, April didn’t get nearly the vitriol. And watching The Wilds now, a certain character, as well, I expect there will be some people who won’t like her but it won’t be the same thing at all. 

I think it’s so many things at once, April is–probably meaner than Harper ever was, but that was before they were in a relationship? And people will excuse that kind of meanness more? The expectations were also completely different, we didn’t even know what TBH was gonna be about, it’s a silly show and the high school bully is kind of an archetype we’ve come to accept and indeed, ship with the protag (Quinn, Paris)? Kinda weird when you think about it but I guess they’re more easily accepted as these wild, absurd universes? Which, I thought HS established too, that silly story from Michelle Buteau’s tour guide to start things off, then the way Abby and Harper were chased away from the roof, then John’s tracking joke. It was meant to be a silly, exaggerated world. But I guess people took it more seriously?

Longevity and coming to know April over a season probably helped too. Age also, high schoolers are trapped in a different way that people are more sympathetic toward than for people in their 20s or older and plus, people expect less from high schoolers in terms of maturity and responsible, forward-thinking decision making. And indeed, a fair number of people who didn’t forgive Harper’s actions toward Abby did leave out what she did to Riley, gotta acknowledge that. But not everyone. 😮

I dunno, heh. It’s a lot of things, I guess, but I do think that there is an expectation to come out in high school or college and the later you put it off, the less sympathy you get, it’s seen as hurting yourself, your partner, your community.