Oh, heh, I have been very loosely following that. I must say, it LOOKS so good, I keep linking scenes from the ship to a friend and going, this is just like a music video! It looks like art.
Oh, yeah, she’s supposed to be immune to that, right, except for the Special Formula from s1. Maybe everyone has it now?
Ok, so, Harley’s immunity, I’ve read that that’s kind of a big deal, right? That in some comic continuity, Harley’s the only one Ivy’s specifically given immunity? Which…nice. But I wondered, on the rooftop in ep 2×12, when the Justice League got dosed, Harley, the closest, wasn’t affected at all. Does that not mean she’s immune?
Honestly, this was my biggest disappointment. I didn’t love every choice made this season but I could at least see why they were made, what they were going for, and honestly, individually, I would finish each of the previous eps and be like, I really enjoyed that. Heck, I loved the banter with the Justice League in the last ep and had been hoping they would show up, I don’t get how that seemed so much more natural and fun than most of this ep, which was just kind of forced along by plot.
But the understanding was always that, as much as they were separated and we were seeing Harley’s POV, at some point we would get to see Ivy’s. The finale would have benefited so much, following ep 12, when everything’s revealed, as being the Ivy Ep, going deeper into her background and feelings and really show why she was so determined to marry a guy she didn’t love, and then end with her making the decision to go with Harley. We’ve seen similar eps for Harley in both seasons, where she had her epiphanies and made her speeches.
Like, the big moment in the car in the end, when Ivy’s like, Harley just trying is enough…what did she mean, was the driving around in the parking lot maze (the maize maze, lol) getting lost the part that convinced her? I said it earlier, but Harley’s clearly been trying to fix things for a while, so narratively, is simply KM removing himself the reason why? That comes across so….I mean, maybe that was to save them from being the bad guys, let KM be the one to end it, but she could have made her choice and he could have been like, I understand, and bowed out gracefully, and that would not have changed much! Because surprise, people are still freaking angry at Harlivy. Misogyny and homophobia didn’t go anywhere, if they really wanted to not make them the bad guys, then don’t write in the cheating to begin with.
I just hope now that a lot of what we’d wanted for these eps happens in season 3. If I’m honest, just returning to season 1 level interactions but now with the explicitly romantic layer would be enough for me, heh.
Oh, awwwww. That sucks. I know they didn’t seem to be doing so well, but like, they barely seemed to promote it and it’s understandable why but it’s also understandable why people weren’t really watching during these times! A blow to lose a wlw Black lead so quickly.
And for sure, I hope they’ll get another season but if it happens, I really want them to stay together and face new issues as a unit, even if it’s a conflict between them, deal with it as the center of the episode and not long separations. We did our time!
I was skimming through the first season earlier for some clips and man, I really loved how they were. When I first heard that they were definitely going to happen and watched the first season, I totally thought they’d get together at least by the midpoint and then we’d see all the great dynamics and banter from the first season but now with this massive change and was so looking forward to see how they’d handle it. But we didn’t get that! Even when the crew found out, they like…just ignored it this ep??? Come on!
I do, I do, I still haven’t really started! I dunno, sometimes I find soap ships overwhelming to start, there’s so much content and you never know what kind of end you’ll get and you have to track down backstory and the episodes and possibly clips and subtitles…lol, which is honestly a poor excuse in this case since my friend totally provided me the links to watch for them. I guess I just haven’t found the energy and right time to sit down and start.
Andrew Heney, owner of the Freeway autoshop, told a local CBS affiliate: “We had a security guard that was out front, because we had just had certain issues with people tagging and stuff like that.”
“And then the police came up, and they pulled their guns on him and he ran because he was scared, and they shot and killed him. He’s got a clean background and everything. There’s no reason.”
Oh, I would very much disagree with that! I think poor Ivy was badly done by, but like, Harley has only tried her best for this whole season?? Which is honestly part of my objection to the writing? It feels like they tried two arcs, Ivy’s difficulty in accepting a romantic relationship with Harley because she didn’t think she’d be able to withstand losing it, and then Harley’s…growing…from…what? She’s always been a bit messy but usually she just does whatever she can in the moment. She’s been exhibiting selfless-ass behavior for a while now, the pit, the bachelorette party, trying to save brainwashed Ivy at all costs and even volunteering to go the Phantom Zone with her, how was saving the wedding a bigger step? Like, what actually changed in her to convince Ivy she’s now trying? She’s been trying!
Even the Parademons can’t only be blamed on her, it feels like everyone forgot, but she didn’t only get them as a distraction, Gordon was also coming after her because the president was pressuring him to for the sake of Gotham. No, if anything, I think the show’s actually a bit afraid to write Harley as making bigger mistakes, but as a consequence, to me, she’s come across as extremely likable and sympathetic.
Maybe it helps that I don’t really see much of the comic nerdbro side of fandom, mostly just other people’s comments about them. I imagine it’d be much worse seeing it firsthand, but like, I don’t really think the show can be blamed for people’s own bias in focusing on men or like, you know, misogyny in general (ETA: even though, as I said in the previous ask, they should at least kind of factor it in). To me, KM was gross at the start, and then a nonentity when it became clear Ivy didn’t really care about him. My feelings about him in the finale were mostly resentment at how much time he was taking from other things but other than that, like I said, whether the choice came from him or Ivy, it was because of the same reason, she didn’t love him. I guess I don’t see it as that awesome when someone doesn’t marry a person who doesn’t love them.
