Would you give your left arm to know what Vera said to Marcela when they were high and dancing? Im trying to imagine the most Vera come on I can think off but nothing.

YES, omg, yes. I can’t believe they deprived us of THAT??? I genuinely thought maybe they’d show us in a flashback or at least tell us! 

What a huge moment, the actual shift, and Vera putting herself out there like that, even if the ‘shrooms lowered her inhibitions (and yes, I know she barely has them at the best of times, but she will protect herself if she feels vulnerable), how did she phrase it, why did she think she even had a chance? I bet it was something jokey and filthy, in case Marcela shot her down, she’d just laugh it off. 

If it’d actually been written into the show, I’d have expected it to be built off their earlier conversation, about being brave, but if I just imagined the most Vera line, it’d probably be “Hey, baby, wanna go fuck?” That girl is blunt.

Eh what are your biggest ships ?

Ever? Hmmmmmm. That’s tough. Recently is easier: Juliantina, Delle Seyah/Aneela, Alex/Veronica, MarVera, Domlene, Dani/Grace (ETA2: Cazzie, lol, I forgot that too)

Some of the big forever ships from earlier: J/7, Faberry, Otalia, Clexa (ETA: And Donna/Cam! And some anime ones I totally forgot about till now) (and somewhat lesser than them, but still pretty significant to me, just not fandom-shaping experiences like the ones before: Keffy, Gelphie, Lintz, Freelin)

Huge ones in the past that because of their ending I don’t think I’ll ever revisit: Kana, Jathea

Tessa was so so good and I think one of the best scenes in my opinion is when theyre talking about Vera not liking sex and she says she wants to be held. The way she just becomes so so small in that scene like a baby and when Marcela touches her arm she sinks in and the way she breathes in the touch I just ahhh I didn’t expect to fall so much for Vera and Tessa. I honestly thought I would actually hate her but this show just shows you starts breaking her down episode by episode.

Oh, that was SUCH an excellent scene for her! Tessa’s great throughout the show, but Vera absolutely does start off as insufferable, and then as you said, the show starts to break her down, you see behind that facade, how people actually view her, how secretly nice she can be with Rocio and Carly, how much she’s just searching for something, a connection, validation, at her job, with Chris, on SM, that ring. 

And then the scene with Marcela you mentioned, when she’d realized Marcela wasn’t going to judge her or tell the others, and like, that was such a different Vera than we often see, not trying to show off or impress her superiority over anyone, which she did with coworkers and followers and strangers and at times even friends, but just earnestly engaging in whispered slumber party girl talk, tell me a secret, how many boys have you slept with? And then as exactly as you said, once Marcela just casually turned it back on her, the way Vera folded into herself and even her voice changed. The mood changed so quickly and completely.

And kudos to Marcela as a person for understanding that and not pushing but just quietly offering Vera that bit of comfort, of knowing what she needed, because rather heartbreakingly, of course she understood perfectly. She didn’t know the depths of Vera’s suffering but what she’d interrupted the other night, she knew enough. And she’s the one other girl of the three who did share that experience (that we know of). It was just a really lovely moment between two women, almost strangers, understanding each other and their pain easing momentarily because of it. Not to be a huge shipper but it was SUCH a good scene, one of the best of the season, and it was with these two, as they slowly started to become friends. It was such a significant scene between two survivors, it would have been so in any case, but it was part of this dynamic, elevating it. This is how I want f/f all the time, obviously not always so heavy but so important and significant to the show.

Okay what is wrong with me? I didn’t like Juliantina but this entire dynamic with the blonde and brunette in this new series Desenfrandas? is ?!

Lol, so we continue with you sharing another of my ships, but still not one of my biggest.

Man, I’m so into the Desenfrenadas duo. I really was not expecting this whole show and ALL the girls AND this f/f to just blindside me. As much as I do keep track of all kinds of f/f, the ones I really fall for are where the writing focuses on character first. I loved their friendship, I loved the kindness, the helping each other out, triumphing over adversity, the “try your best” optimism. And as for the ship, give me interesting, rootable characters I’ll like for their own sakes, a real dynamic, and an organic arc and I’m there.

Actually, I remember jokingly coming up with shipping rules last year around when KJ and Atypical were really thrilling me and there were some lovely Tumblr posts from people speaking on shipping, Jane Austen style.

Welcome to the Booasaur Austenian Shipping Requirements:

1. It’s mutual 

2. It’s transformative, there’s real change through and for each other

3. We see them openly communicate

2 is the big Austen one and the other two, you’d think they’d be a given, but for f/f they’re not! They’re really not. 😡 But don’t my big ships fit that? Isn’t that the best kind of ship? God, openly communicating…my kink. 😛 As much as I loved Desenfrenadas ep 7 (and 10), it was ep 6 that made me genuinely into them. I love seeing all kinds of canon f/f, but the kind where you really see these characters sit and talk? Ah, man.

What did you think of Barbaras performance in Desenfrenadas? I honestly love her but I didnt feel her performance was strong and she just didnt give me the right tone for Rocio. I think Tessa was the best out of everyone.

How dare–you come into MY house and you–I’m kidding, I’m kidding, obviously, you can feel however you want about her, lol. Uh, I suppose I understand where you’re coming from, but I don’t agree with it. As with AAM, where she often acted against people who reacted in much larger ways, she comes across as more subdued, but I think that again fits her character pretty well. She’s the dutiful, responsible, med school daughter, always content to stay in the shadows of her sister and friends.

I thought she was perfect. As others have mentioned, her eyes are super expressive and I certainly felt that was the case here too. As with Juls, she’s more of a watchful character, observing people, and then in the last few eps she came out of her shell and how she played Rocio reflected that, more confident, less self-aware, moving more easily. And I’m not sure what you meant by the right tone for Rocio, but it was kind of funny, I was thinking to myself during the first ep that if we’re going by rich girl going into her father’s career, this is FAR closer to Barbara in real life than Juls ever was. 

Actually, when I was making that trigger warning list last night and had to skim through the whole show again very quickly, I stopped, for MarVera reasons, at the strip scene and rewatched about 50 times to just absorb what was happening. The reactions, the music, the fact that we were watching a female character–the top credited cast member as a matter of fact–absolutely SPRUNG on this other woman, in this setting, with that song, with the absurd parallels between Vera and Sapo, both of them looking at Marcela with this contrasting hunger, his skeevy, hers honestly kind of unaware, the way the camera returned again and again to Vera, the urgent but gentle way Rocio made Vera sit down again, it was all just–But before I keep going on about that, the reason I bring it up right now, the reactions when they first recognize Marcela:

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This wordless couple of seconds conveys everything necessary in that moment, doesn’t it? The surprise, the “obviously she’s here”, the measuring “what do we do now?”, it’s all there! I think she’s perfect as Rocio, someone who’s grown up in a restrained atmosphere, while her sister coped by rebelling, she just folded into it.

But I will agree, Tessa was ah-mazing. I honestly wasn’t looking to get into a new series this much, I thought I’d watch it almost as a chore, you know?, for Barbara, gif a bit of her face and that’d be that, but I ended up really loving it, probably one of the top two shows of the year so far for me. Give me main character Spanish-speaking wlw and I’m yours, apparently. 😛  I really didn’t need another show to be into to this degree. So many gifs to make! So many actresses to stan! There are only so many hours in the day! Oh, lol, speaking of which, the pics with Maca and Tessa gave me such strong dissonance, trying to reconcile these two fandoms, heh. 

But yeah, she was very, very good as Vera. And I know I keep obsessing on the treatment of MarVera, the meta of it all, how groundbreaking that is, but I also really just the girls and their characters and dynamics and arcs, separate and together. She was so natural and genuine, totally being this character, good at turning you off at times, and almost rooting against her, at least for her comeuppance, like, “you brought this on yourself” and “what did you expect” (re: the dresses), but a second later, feeling so deeply, impossibly protective of her. The same way Marcela felt, I imagine, lol. And the way Vera felt for Marcela. Ah, I enjoyed watching this show.