so while I loved that juliantina was is their own bubble separated from the ‘main plot’ (tho for us that’s them) for most of the show, I kinda thought they were eventually going to full on collide with juliantina as a established? Especially post that Camilo scene. Can’t remember who coined it but they said ‘hoping for that scooby doo shit’. Instead we got lips/Sergio. In hindsight I’m not sure anymore, cause that stuff was important. But it was a bit of a bummer to miss out on the former

Also I remember we talked about ek ladki a while ago and it feels like a Similar criticism pattern with the ‘it’s not gay enough’ as opposed to ‘thanks for the gay you gave us’ THO most of my juliantina problems are sorta with the overall writing for the ending (obv I wouldn’t be opposed to more physical thing but not totally what I was missing). There’s a spectrum between wanting more/being happy and then also valid writing analysis! The dead are gone and the gays are hungry

I don’t really consider them separate from the main plot, I would say that’s Guille/Renata. Juliantina were constantly involved with more central plots, they just happened to be written so differently, at least for the first three quarters, that they seemed separate. But their stories constantly involved other central characters. Val was used to bridge Lucia and Leon, Juls was constantly used to reflect the current state of Lupe/Chino and what kind of person Chino was, to balance what we were currently seeing Beltran try to be. They did develop separately, quite a bit, the park, the dancing, the swimming, the party, but I wouldn’t consider that a bubble, simply a separate thread that would then tie back to the main.

And it kind of did, but not really in a very helpful way, you’re right. Juls did discover Chino, they did go to Camilo, and then that all went off the rails. I guess that was too early for them to actually discover it. I think they had a few gay issues they wanted to cross off and Lupe’s homophobia and the mess with Sergio were some of them. But then Juls’s kidnapping was again part of the main plot. In fact, that was probably the one storyline that involved the most main characters. But if we’re talking about simply the transmigration, I do wish they’d had more to do with the actual discoveries instead of a very last minute kind of irrelevant revelation at the very end. They had all the pieces and they were written to be important to it, but not really shown to be in the end.

Lol, as for “it’s not gay enough”, that’s indeed a common refrain, but I don’t really begrudge people it, things can always be gayer. 😛 Though it’s not my own particular criticism for either. I don’t really have one for ELKDTAL but my big problem with the AAM finale was, as you said, the technical writing of it. They failed to deliver on things they set up themselves. After thirty episodes of “I want to be with you but I can’t”, where was the actual scene where we saw them on the same page? I could–and do–forgive most of the other issues but that was the big thing for me.

There’s a spectrum between wanting more/being happy and then also valid writing analysis!” Definitely agree with this. My own frankly cheery blithe response to the finale also comes with but we didn’t get this or this and that one moment was egregious! And yeah, that’s basically it, I’m happy with so much of it and wanted some bits to be as good as they’ve shown themselves to be. It’s like that sometimes.