We were right to hate him all along.
And another anon:
I am so grateful to the tweet I saw w that spoiler a couple days ago Bc I had a visceral reaction to reading it, so I’m glad I had a couple days to process and decide not to watch til further notice. I think that warning allowed me to save some goodwill towards what we already had going for Juliantina so far. I gotta say tho, I am so fucking tired of f/f ships and lesbians/queer women being used to teach the heteros a lesson about not being homophobic pricks. It’s a slap in the face every time.
Good and prescient decision to listen to what everyone else considered a troll, lol. And that last one is a super fair point, buddy. One can argue the importance of teaching lessons, but goddamn, let us live.
Though, I guess on the other hand, if you’re not looking at it from a lesson point of view at all, what the repercussions are, it’s just a dumb jealousy and kinda cheating plot like the hets in telenovelas already get. If anything, they were a lot softer with this ship for a lot longer than we’d expected. And that’s how they got us.
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As much as I hated it happened I’m just grateful we didn’t see anything and there was not a trace of doubt after it. Not trying to be nice, not anything. We got the least of evils we all know this could’ve so much more wrong than this. I’m emotionally drained for the night tho
Ah, I mean, yeah, I thought it was clear how much she hated it but well, that’s a low bar, huh. I still don’t think it was needed, but I do understand that aside from possibly teaching a lesson, it’s literally just drama for the sake of it. They had a good run without it but I guess they had to fall. I’m exhausted too, and we’re only on Tuesday.
And another anon:
On one of Maca’s and Barb’s videos today someone translated it and there was something where Maca said Val caught Juls with Sergio, but on the show, she didn’t catch them. Do you think that was a scene they filmed but didn’t go with, or do you think the translation was wrong or were Maca and Barb just bullshitting with us.
I think they were joking, that’s all. Any kind of deleted scene wouldn’t have fit in, since Val was still trying to reach her while Juls was kidnapped.
And another anon:
SPOILER that episode was too real… Not the kidnapping part (?) but the pressuring to do something…. God dammit so many things wrong this episode! (also Barbara acting tho)
Heh, thanks for the spoiler tag. Ugh, yeah, she looked so broken. Barbara was great, for real. You could tell how much it was all killing Juls.
And another anon:
Add something more why juliana doesn’t believe she is good for Val. My poor baby has to deal with all that; and then this?
Oof, yes, right? Her first thought was of Val. Man, that kid is going through it.
And another anon:
The thing that tears me up inside is knowing that apparently Juls cries about it right after?! Like, my poor poor baby… uggggh. She needs such a giant hug. Also, I will actually be pissed if their scene is more racy/revealing than the shower scene. That would be fucked up.
Right, what’s confusing me a lot about the reactions is she’s quite clearly the one who’s suffering the most here. Before she does it, the amount of confusion and self-loathing and doubt that brings her to this place, then during, then after? I don’t understand why people are mad at her when she’s madder at herself than we could ever be!
The show is not being vague or ambiguous about this. She feels like crap, she’s drinking, sleeping with a guy she’s visibly shown disgust for, and she’s crying like, through most of those scenes. We don’t need to see her internal processes or perspective more than that, that is all very, very clear in what we’re getting.
Like, maybe some of us do need this lesson, not just freaking straight homophobes in Mexico, but some of us for why somebody would do this. As if she should be blamed for this. For not listening to Val or giving her that chance to explain, for being too stubborn, sure, she should have listened. But if you can’t even grant the empathy to feel for her when she’s doing this, I don’t really what you’re doing watching a TV show that spells things out for you really clearly.