youcareabouthim:

Can people stop saying that Clarke will make Bellamy “good” again and that she’ll bring him to the “right” side and that’s why they hugged?? It’s really gross?? Because believe it or not, but Clarke isn’t always right and despite how this narrative tries to spin her as this all knowing white savior (“what would Clarke do?”) in season two, her way isn’t always the right or best way in the end, aka her trusting in the grounders alliance in s2 to rescue the kids and Bellamy even said all they needed was an insider man and guess what?? in the end he was right??

Going into season three this is literally the dilemma again because both of them have different ideas of how to best protect their people, except this time their methods don’t align and they find themselves on opposite sides with different methods. Despite how I disagree with Bellamy’s methods and in fact I’m cringing at the thought of how much more shit Jason’s gonna make Bellamy go through before he finally makes an active stand against Pike, it’s super gross to me that the BC fandom likes to romanticize the idea of Clarke “saving” Bellamy in any way, shape, or form by showing him how wrong he is (and by default showing how right she is, and having him acknowledge it!!) and that she somehow represents this all knowing truth and Bellamy needs to follow her “light”. Like Clarke isn’t perfect and she fucked up a lot too because she thought she was doing the right thing, just like how Bellamy thinks he’s doing the right thing now, and that was literally the whole point of the last BC scene where Bellamy was angry at her because yes, some of it was personal resentment for her deserting them and him, but some of it was also him questioning her leading style and prior actions and guess what folks, Clarke needs to have her actions questioned and held accountable, just like how Bellamy is gonna be held accountable for his fuck ups in this season.

Why are people pretending like Bellamy is in the total wrong here, as if Clarke’s plan to hold the coalition together isn’t gonna blow up on her face (it will, trust me) and it’s gonna be like MW betrayal 2.0 because she once again thought the answer to everything is making an alliance with grounders, but in the end, it’s only a short term solution?? The coalition isn’t gonna hold and what then? The only difference is that this time Bellamy isn’t gonna sit around twiddling his thumb waiting for shit to hit the fan and have the alliance fall apart AGAIN and he’s taking the offense instead of playing defense again, and yeah his methods are fucking questionable, but don’t pretend that Clarke’s methods are beyond criticism either and shame Bellamy for being wrong while Clarke herself is gonna be proven wrong very quickly once the Ice Nation gets the civil war they want so badly.

Despite liking Clexa, I’ve never minded reading things from the Bellarke side because they call out the racism, and lord knows there’s a lot of racism on The 100. But reading this kind of sickened me. Yes, it’s gross for your ship if people have Clarke “fixing” Bellamy or if Bellamy needs Clarke’s guidance to not do gross things, which is on the show too, but the major problem is the writers, most of whom seem to have very little idea with how to write for disenfranchised groups, writing a colonialist narrative spearheaded by PoC characters and then eventually glossing over it and always valuing Clarke above everyone else. Equating what you think are Clarke’s poor strategic choices with Bellamy’s poor moral choices is pretty awful? The Arkers are playing out the colonialist narrative very clearly and it really does sicken me to think that somebody murdering what we’ve clearly seen is an innocent group of native people because of xenophobic fear of what they might do is seen as positive action, going on the offense and not twiddling his thumbs. You value Bob Morley’s Asian background, how can you ignore how this very thing historically ravaged huge parts of Asia?

I’m not asking for a discussion of the process. I’m really just asking a yes or no question: did you know this trope existed and was it a concern for you while writing?

commander-lexa:

okbjgm:

i absolutely did, it absolutely was, we discussed it, and yet, in spite of all of our best intentions and conversations, we were naive enough – or arrogant enough – to believe that the lgb representation in our show, and out ability as witers would superate/redeem our use of the trope. we were wrong.

holy fuck they genuinely thought they were so fantastic at their jobs that we wouldn’t mind the lesbian death trope in the show…. bye

I just…I keep thinking I’m going to step away from this because they’re not worth it, but. How…? Which part of it was going to save them?

But anyway, I want to know how they write this upcoming narrative where they’ve been copying Pocahontas/Avatar/FernGully/etc (extra marks again for having a white girl play the leader of the native population) except instead of having the sympathetic colonizer understand the native viewpoint they kill off the native and have the colonizer take over. Their ability as writers should blow that out of the water.

I’m not asking for a discussion of the process. I’m really just asking a yes or no question: did you know this trope existed and was it a concern for you while writing?

commander-lexa:

okbjgm:

i absolutely did, it absolutely was, we discussed it, and yet, in spite of all of our best intentions and conversations, we were naive enough – or arrogant enough – to believe that the lgb representation in our show, and out ability as witers would superate/redeem our use of the trope. we were wrong.

holy fuck they genuinely thought they were so fantastic at their jobs that we wouldn’t mind the lesbian death trope in the show…. bye

I just…I keep thinking I’m going to step away from this because they’re not worth it, but. How…? Which part of it was going to save them?

But anyway, I want to know how they write this upcoming narrative where they’ve been copying Pocahontas/Avatar/FernGully/etc (extra marks again for having a white girl play the leader of the native population) except instead of having the sympathetic colonizer understand the native viewpoint they kill off the native and have the colonizer take over. Their ability as writers should blow that out of the water.

I’m sad. And I didn’t even want to get into it for so long, and I KNEW the problems they’d had with racism and sexism. I don’t know why I let down my guard, I thought they’d learned something and improved, I was just so desperate for something. And now we’re at this point. I’m never watching again, it was a terrible show outside the Clexa and Grounder part and it seems like they’re gearing up for Clarke to be the master benevolent colonialist, at least better than the evil Arkadia colonialists. Whatever.

But…people are so sad. I was into this for like a month. How’s the f/f community going to get past this? When a new show they can’t trust? When? I can go and watch some good happy-ending movies but we have like, what, three? After that, it’s still coming back to this. And this will remain with us for a long, long time.

I’m sad. And I didn’t even want to get into it for so long, and I KNEW the problems they’d had with racism and sexism. I don’t know why I let down my guard, I thought they’d learned something and improved, I was just so desperate for something. And now we’re at this point. I’m never watching again, it was a terrible show outside the Clexa and Grounder part and it seems like they’re gearing up for Clarke to be the master benevolent colonialist, at least better than the evil Arkadia colonialists. Whatever.

But…people are so sad. I was into this for like a month. How’s the f/f community going to get past this? When a new show they can’t trust? When? I can go and watch some good happy-ending movies but we have like, what, three? After that, it’s still coming back to this. And this will remain with us for a long, long time.

spacenuggetrey:

like literally if lexa had even just like fucking died on the battlefield or something that would have been different

we would have been upset that we lost yet another lesbian character but you know what like Fuckign hell it would have been in her character and it would have been in the world and we would be like okay we still have Clarke at least she won’t die

But no

This is literally the worst fucking way you could have done this you just recreated by fucking rote the exact mechanics of the scene that solidified the dead lesbian trope and made an entire generation of queer girls forever nervous about any media that does so much as acknowledge us

But no

you had to kill her on the heels of a love scene you had to kill her with a lazy stray bullet meant for her lover you had to kill her in a way that literally says “this love got you killed” and i cant believe for a while there i really thought I could trust a show but they will never truly get where we are coming from when we say that you can’t operate like you’re writing in a vacuum

spacenuggetrey:

like literally if lexa had even just like fucking died on the battlefield or something that would have been different

we would have been upset that we lost yet another lesbian character but you know what like Fuckign hell it would have been in her character and it would have been in the world and we would be like okay we still have Clarke at least she won’t die

But no

This is literally the worst fucking way you could have done this you just recreated by fucking rote the exact mechanics of the scene that solidified the dead lesbian trope and made an entire generation of queer girls forever nervous about any media that does so much as acknowledge us

But no

you had to kill her on the heels of a love scene you had to kill her with a lazy stray bullet meant for her lover you had to kill her in a way that literally says “this love got you killed” and i cant believe for a while there i really thought I could trust a show but they will never truly get where we are coming from when we say that you can’t operate like you’re writing in a vacuum